Sorry if this is old or late, but can someone post a quick link to the
software page for Eclipse, thanks ;-)

Last fall my professor was talking about this, Eclipse that could be used to
edit Java as well.

<Yippykia>
    <Camilo Trevino>
    <Microsoft Certified System Engineer>
    <Comptia A+ Computer Technician>
    <ColdFusion Applications Developer>
</Yippykia>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Stephen Milligan
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Eclipse WAS (RE: [CFCDev] Serialization of CFCs)

>> Is there something tangible that makes you despise it?
>
>Spike: It's so bad that (and I mean this literally) the *only* positive
>thing I can say is that CFEclipse is really cool. Every time a
>new version
>of the plugin is released, I reinstall Eclipse just to see
>what neat little
>ideas have been added.

hehe

It's nice to be the only bright light in an otherwise dark and dismal
product :)

>
>Stuff that I use every day in Dreamweaver that I can't find or use in
>Eclipse:
>
>- Icons for save/load/undo/redo... I don't do keyboard shortcuts.

I thought these were in there already, but on closer inspection, you're
right. I'll bear that in mind

>- Find/replace limited to a selection

Yep, agreed.

>- A two-mouse-click GET and PUT process

Not sure what you mean by GET and PUT. Are you talking about FTP?

>- Line-wrap

Yep, definitely missing

>- Create an empty edit window without generating a new file

Oh yeah, I'd love to see this as native functionality. For now, we're
planning a compromise of some kind. More info when I've got round to trying
to implement it and see what's actually feasible.

>- It's a minor thing, but I prefer DW's single close button
>for all tabs

It should be possible to add that. The keyboard shortcut for it is
ctrl+shift+w

>
>Then there's the general feel of the thing. As much as I have always
>disliked The Macromedia Interface, the Adobe lawsuit seems to
>have corrected
>some of their greatest problems. Eclipse, meanwhile, feels like every
>horrible little Java applet I've ever touched, minus the speed
>issues. In
>that sense, Eclipse is to Dreamweaver what Opera is to Firefox
>or IE... an
>absurd interface wrapped around a so-so implementation of core
>features and
>a bunch of extraneous add-ons that I'll never use.
>
>Not that I'm madly in love with DW... my little piece of
>mindshare is there
>for the taking. But Eclipse won't be the tool that does it.
>

Not sure if we can to a whole lot about most of the above other than create
a standalone install like He3 that cuts down on the extraneous stuff that is
installed. We have considered that as an option given that there are a
fairly standard set of plugins that most people want to see such as DB
connectivity, xml editing, JS editing, CSS editing.

All good feedback in any case.

Thanks

Spike

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