For my part, while I don't recall putting anyone thru the OO-wringer, if I did.... well, I'm sorry.... twasn't the intent.
And I'll admit that at this point I'm fairly focused on OO, for several reasons none of which are blind affection for OO over any alternatives, but because I see huge benefits, and a much richer understanding of CFCs in general, because of a solid foundation of OO...
And... like I said... I post procedural code on my blog all the time. It'd be fairly hypocritical of me to INSIST than people adopt OO in light of that, eh?
My point in the first post to this thread had little to do with USING OO and a lot to do with a) communication when speaking of things (in that the language is the same or at least similar) and b) there's potentially a lot more going on with CFC's than just UDFs-with-parameters.
And, I think CF is a lot like marijuanna... it's a simple and available starter language that can lead to harder languages like Java or C++. I'd rather someone wrote procedural code in it than didn't use it at all, either!
Anyway... this thread is interesting... I've enjoyed watching it unfold.
Laterz!
Jared
On Apr 5, 2005 1:20 AM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it me, or does anyone else feel like we are making ye-ol CFMX work
like Java tooo much since we got it out of the shrink wrap.
I know it serves a purpose, but when i approach a problem with some
co-developers-in-around-my-community-and-i-know-via-world-wide-web
they always refute a claim with "but in java..." or "well in java
we.."
I feel like going "yah well if i wanted java, i'd be installing java
sdk instead of cfmx..no well thxu stfu plz."
Just a left field observation. Next week's topic: "Why are we taking a
perfectly good language and making another add-on language set out of
XML to use with that said language".
:)
On Apr 5, 2005 3:50 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2005 9:31 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ie DG/DAO is getting to the points of religion now, I know a couple of
> > devs who are blindly using them because of this list.... yet they
> > don't realise it....hrm...... that can't be good.. i too suckled on
> > the teet that which is pure OO patterns and it took an intervention
> > from Spike to show me the way of a new religion.
>
> Yeah, that's why I took the examples out of the Mach II Development
> Guide - people were following them religiously without really
> analyzing why. I was guilty of pushing OO heavily at first (within the
> CF world) because I've been doing it for over a dozen years now and it
> is pretty much second nature - so I thought I was trying to help. But
> I came to realize that folks were blindly following various
> recommendations without understanding them and therefore using them
> inappropriately.
>
> These days, I'm much more likely to try to offer *multiple* options
> rather than a single "best" option (my catchphrase seems to be "it
> depends") and I'm trying to get folks to approach problems as "get it
> working the work on getting it right" by refactoring code later on
> when they feel comfortable with it.
>
> Hence my comment "heck why not just <cfinclude> the file?" Quick and
> dirty but likely to get the job done in a way that folks understand.
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