Okay, on second reading it did sound like a pitch, but haranguing? Hm..I hadn't thought of it as 'haranguing' but it may well have been seen as that by some. I was making some effort, albeit 'door to door salesman like' to say what a cool tool this is. My sincere apologies for seeming to be haranguing anyone.
We live in a media saturated environment and virtually everything that is printed, broadcast or posted alludes to some product or service. Heck, even this list in the end supports the sales of ColdFusion and other products from MM/Adobe and many of the participants are MM employees with a vested interest in generating support and adoption for the products and services of MM/Adobe. There are agendas at work all over the place. People pitching this framework, and that methodology, this, that and the other, the latest and greatest and on and on...
Anyhow, my 'pitch' aside and it's 'fuller brush man' tone as well, PT is still a pretty neat tool that has helped me build some very cool stuff of late, I guess that does colour my perceptions.
As for coffee, I'm a home expresso maker myself...Italian roast, organic milk...the only way to go...Well, maybe not the 'only' way...after all we mustn't harangue anyone about their coffee preferences.
Byron
On May 13, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Roger Lancefield wrote:
Byron, you contacted the list with what sounded like a thinly disguised bit of advertising. Then in one of your replies after being asked if you were marketing something, you obliquely replied saying that "most things" are a form of marketing (whatever "things" was supposed to refer to), which sounded as if you were admitting that you were indeed making a sales pitch. I think therefore that you shouldn't be surprised if people act dismissively or with incredulity.
The best things in life are not always free. Tom, the guy who developed the tool has really put a lot into it, why shouldn't he get something back?
I didn't hear anyone say that he shouldn't get something back. The issue doesn't seem to be whether or not the creator should be allowed to profit from his tool, but whether or not people are interested in listening to your haranguing advice.
In the scheme of things $299 is a drop in the bucket and if the tool works; I mean really works, then it's an investment that will continue to pay off job after job after job. You get the idea.
Yes, I get the idea.
Besides, you probably piss more than down the drain in coffee from Starbuck's every month. Is that money well spent?
Every penny I spend on coffee is well spent. I work from home and make gorgeous brews, rotating my way through the world's beans and mixing the results with fresh organic milk. No rip-off Starbucks beverages for me :-)
Roger
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