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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of John Paul Ashenfelter
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 3:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Ruby on Rails for CF


On 9/25/05, John Farrar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that sounds like an interesting implementation. One of the Rails
rants
> is to not put config files as such into XML.

That's true, but misses have the point -- the config files that Rails
uses are written using YAML instead of XML. For most configuration
purposes, they are pretty equivalent except YAML requires a lot less
typing :)

JOHN: 
So it's less automated scripting created by the generator? Do I understand
that? Somehow the less typing, and the lower portability seem to be the
questions that would generate in my mind. 

The cool about RoR is it does so much. Duplicating RoR tit for tat would be
contrary to the development principles of the creators of RoR. I would like
to see the good benefits built one at a time and the more we get built and
the more portable it is the more everyone benefits. The big brain freeze in
the CF community seems to be build it all or nothing. That is crazy!

I would still like to see some work go in that direction. Until there is a
community effort my personal journey is already under way. Perhaps things
like YAML are better than doing XML in CF. Yet, CF is a marketed product and
definitely not open source. That in some ways is one of the down sides of CF
from an honest take. If we all forked out the bucks for enterprise then we
could build some universal Java tool that achieved YAML like functionality
that gave us less typing.

I am working on some simple "metaBeans" that use an XML configuration to get
some of those things accomplished for CF development. There are 101 ways to
do things that range from wrong way to best way for this situation. My
project won't be the ultimate only way to do things. Yet, it sure beats
waiting for a group of guys to jump in and build CFoR in complete form or do
nothing.

Therefore, this is just an open offer for anyone who is interested to join
in. I am not going to beat the drum for help, that just wears out the
drummer and wastes time on promotion that can go into building a project! In
fact my beans are under way, and showing off the basic concept as part of
our MUG meeting tonight.

Thanks for the insight, it's appreciated. Sometimes I may take a couple of
rounds to see things that are obvious... so please come around again if you
see I missed something from your perspective.

Sincerely,

John Farrar
SOSensible




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