I like OO. I don't do full OO models in CF much. Java (where I spend the most time outside of CF) is a different story - and one where I have tools such as Hibernate ;). I really just wanted to comment on this statement:
> In addition, with the business > objects we deal with, it seems unnatural for them to have behaviors, unlike > a car being able to "start()". We don't have cars, but we do have documents (which might publish()), user credentials (which might expire()), trouble tickets (which might close()), etc. Building a truly OO object model is incredibly difficult, because it necessitates a sharp departure from the procedural mindset that we are all forced to deal with on the web. And when I say "incredibly difficult", I don't mean just for beginners, I mean for everyone. It gets easier as you practice (like anything else), but I don't think it ever gets easy. cheers, barneyb On 8/29/07, Justin Treher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of talk by > "Tom MInderson". It seems like he has about 50 posts spread out (by doing a > quick Google search). They all pretty much say the same thing: > > > > OO complicates things for datacentric applications that ColdFusion is > targeting. I.e. we don't control cars or automatic garage doors. Then he > goes on about this "Set Theory". > > > > The only thing I could find on set theory with Coldfusion was at > http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41826_p.htm > > … the most complex ColdFusion article ever. > > > > Is anyone familiar with his anti-web app OOP mission? Do his arguments have > any validity? What the heck is set theory programming? I felt like I was > stepping back into philosophy 101 with syllogisms. > > > > I do see his point that trying to map objects to a relational database is > where OOP starts to feel really unnatural. In addition, with the business > objects we deal with, it seems unnatural for them to have behaviors, unlike > a car being able to "start()". > > > > Justin > You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions > at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm > > CFCDev is supported by: > Katapult Media, Inc. > We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock! > www.katapultmedia.com > > An archive of the CFCDev list is available at > www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm CFCDev is supported by: Katapult Media, Inc. We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock! www.katapultmedia.com An archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org
