Hi Guys... Kevin Towes here...
I would like to reply to this thread.  The email that I sent Rudy was not
intended as marketing hype.  It was an honest response to a query requarding
attendence of CFNorth.    By no means was it ever meant as marketing - which
is why it was ONLY posted to this listSRV.  The organizers of CFUN 2002
(Teratech) in Maryland received a copy of this email and took it UPON
THEMSELVES with absolutely no consultation or agreement from myself to lift
this email and post it as a marketing email to their marketing list.

I have since had communciations with both Macromedia and the organizer of
CFUN to address this very serious issue.  CFUN has been informed to NOT
continue posting emails, newsletters or any correspondance related to
CFNorth.   I, myself have no association with CFUN other then I am a
speaker - I am not involved with their marketing campaigns, or the confernce
organization.   CFUN is similar to CFNorth - it is, like CFNorth, a regional
event targeting developers in the Washington area and like CFNorth is a
community-driven event not-for-profit.   Their over-zelousness may have put
them in a bit of luke warm water, but I have been formally apologized to and
have their word that this will not happen again.

My Apologies to the CFUGToronto community, if you have any direct issues
with this or any other action of the Toronto user group, please do not
hesitate to contact me directy at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or by phone: 416-922-1600 x501

kevin towes.

PS - in the future, I would hope that the original poster of this thread
would choose his/her words in the subject line with an ajusted strategy and
a little more consideration for the target.   I would be happy to close down
CFUGToronto, and discontinue any support for the ColdFusion community in the
Toronto area (including CFNorth) - I could use a break, anyway - I don't
feel it is appropriate or respectful with personal hits like this one.
Remember, I don't get paid for this, and in reguards to CFNorth - well,
Bryon and I have paid a lot of money out-of-pocket (close to $10,000) to
ensure a successful conference, and a successful support network for the
Toronto area.  I would suggest, that if you don't like the way things are
run, you can bring it up to Macromedia, or just leave.  (Btw - Macromedia's
email is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - feel free to bring it up to them).

thank you.











-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: May 23, 2002 4:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [CFTALKTor] LIAR, LIAR!!!


Yep, I'll be there, as a speaker. I really do think there's more to this
whole thing that will get sorted out.

/charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of rudy
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] LIAR, LIAR!!!
>
>
> > I'm on the mailing list for the CFUN-2k and didn't see
> > such a message go to the list.
>
> thanks, charles, i suspect it was a different list, or portion of a list
>
> > But assuming he did just send it to you, I'd like to inject a little
> levity
> > in the heat of the moment to say: what are the odds of that!
>
> yeah, that's pretty funny
>
> what are the odds he wouldn't notice the same name in one(1) recipient
>
> you have cheered me up with your reply, charles
>
> thank you
>
> i suspect he must've used something like
>
>    <cfquery>
>        select name, emailid
>           from contacts
>         where not exists
>         (select 1
>            from registrations
>               where emailid=contacts.emailid)
>    <cfquery>
>
> or alternatively a left outer join where registrations.emailid is null
>
> in other words, subtle armtwisting/encouragement only for people who have
> not registered
>
> you're probably going to cfun02, right?
>
>
> rudy
>
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