N"_ V would use V's monadic definition but only for side effects. N&V would use V's dyadic definition and give us its result.
If you use [ for V these two forms would behave equivalently. Personally, I prefer both the current implementation (syntax error) and N&V over N"_ V -- I don't see the value of dedicating a parsing rule to computing a result and then discarding it. But that's just my reasoning. What's yours? Thanks, -- Raul On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, it would make NV equivalent to N"_ but in chat I am willing to prefer > that to N&V ! > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > >> When I think of how this could be used, I think it's kind of disgusting. >> >> -- >> Raul >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I would prefer that NV be treated as the hook N"_ V >>> >>> Kip Murray >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Please provide examples where simple errors are masked. The thing with NV >>>> is that it has to occur in _isolation_, so its use has to be quite >>>> deliberate. >>>> On 2013-08-21 10:18 AM, "Zsbán Ambrus" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 8/21/13, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Re: [Jchat] Propose (NOUN verb) parses as NOUN&verb >>>>>> The "harmless" part pertains in part to that there is already an existing >>>>>> parse rule (6) that can implement it. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, so that's what you mean by harmless. I see this addition as >>>>> possibly harmful because it would mask simple errors so you catch them >>>>> only later. >>>>> >>>>> Ambrus >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
