Interpreting NV as the hook N"_ V parallels the interpretation of NVV as the 
fork N"_ V V .  As the hook N"_ V is mostly useless, it is a poor suggestion.

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On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

>   N"_ V
> would use V's monadic definition but only for side effects.
> 
>   N&V
> would use V's dyadic definition and give us its result.
> 
> If you use [ for V these two forms would behave equivalently.
> 
> Personally, I prefer both the current implementation (syntax error)
> and N&V over N"_ V  -- I don't see the value of dedicating a parsing
> rule to computing a result and then discarding it.
> 
> But that's just my reasoning. What's yours?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Raul
> 
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:54 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, it would make NV equivalent to N"_ but in chat I am willing to prefer 
>> that to N&V !
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> When I think of how this could be used, I think it's kind of disgusting.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM, km <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I would prefer that NV be treated as the hook N"_ V
>>>> 
>>>> Kip Murray
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Please provide examples where simple errors are masked.  The thing with NV
>>>>> is that it has to occur in _isolation_, so its use has to be quite
>>>>> deliberate.
>>>>> On 2013-08-21 10:18 AM, "Zsbán Ambrus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/21/13, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Re: [Jchat] Propose (NOUN verb) parses as NOUN&verb
>>>>>>> The "harmless" part pertains in part to that there is already an 
>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>> parse rule (6) that can implement it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, so that's what you mean by harmless.  I see this addition as
>>>>>> possibly harmful because it would mask simple errors so you catch them
>>>>>> only later.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ambrus
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