APL chars are ok if you have the correct equipment etc. Unicode is supposed to solve that issue - who knows when.
I have had countless problems with the APL chars in the past. There is no real need for them as far as I can tell. APL is having a lot of issues with the chars. National chars in general are having all kinds of problems - some may be fixed in the future with unicode. You are free to use unicode in J if you want so you can use APL chars if you want. You could write a translater to convert J scripts to/from APL - or whatever unicode you want. I doubt anyone would pay you for it. Some people might test it but I would not expect anyone to use it. - Björn Helgason gsm:6985532 skype:gosiminn On 24.2.2014 19:38, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: > APL characters are really nice to read, for people that are familiar > with them. You get a real division symbol for division (not just the > visual pun of %). You get a left pointing arrow for assignment (which > avoids all sorts of bugs and misconceptions centered around using = > for associating names and values). > > But there's no standard for *typing* APL characters. So now you have a > steeper learning curve for getting people started. > > Also, you run into issues like this: > http://forums.dyalog.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=619 > > Anyways, if you want APL characters, there are already really good APL > implementations out there, with professional support, and the desire > and funding to support the hacks and workarounds and education that > are needed for APL character support. Why not use them? > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:00 PM, PMA <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd love to hear -- putting aside implementation issues, people's > aversion > > to the unfamiliar, and what is or isn't ugly -- how the list members > would > > expect adoption of APL chars to impact (enhance/ruin/...) J. > > > > > > Roger Hui wrote: > >> > >> I love the APL chars as much as the next guy. Some people would argue > >> that > >> APL chars are no longer a problem, but recent experience with my Samsung > >> tablet indicates otherwise. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Raul Miller<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Maybe I should be doing this in a different forum? It's hard to > >>> anticipate if or where conversation will go. > >>> > >>> Anyways, http://www.johndcook.com/symbols/2014/02/apl/ reminded me to > >>> think about the tradeoffs involved in J's design: > >>> > >>> thru=: [ + 1 i.@+ -~ > >>> 10 thru 20 > >>> 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 > >>> u: 16b2336 thru 16b237a > >>> ⌶⌷⌸⌹⌺⌻⌼⌽⌾⌿⍀⍁⍂⍃⍄⍅⍆⍇⍈⍉⍊⍋⍌⍍⍎⍏⍐⍑⍒⍓⍔⍕⍖⍗⍘⍙⍚⍛⍜⍝⍞⍟⍠⍡⍢⍣⍤⍥⍦⍧⍨⍩⍪⍫⍬⍭⍮⍯⍰⍱⍲⍳⍴⍵⍶⍷⍸⍹⍺ > >>> > >>> ASCII is horribly ugly, the world still has not caught up to APL's > >>> character set. > >>> > >>> Sometimes, retro is the right choice. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Raul > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
