I corresponded a little with Bob and am willing to put up about 1/10th the cost, but you may be right that time is running out in terms of being able to do a good job on this.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > It's looking to me like this is not going to happen, this year. > > I asked Robert Bernecky to put together the a presentation draft, and he's > put in some significant work on this, so I'm confident that he could > benefit us by attending. But I am not comfortable pushing as hard as I'd > need to push, to make the financial side work. (Or, I could fund it mostly > myself, with a few contributions from other people, but I'm uncomfortable > with the idea of me pushing that hard for something that other people are > not seeing the value in.) > > It's actually a bit premature, to call this off - the deadline isn't until > the begining of next month. But I've committed my time over the next couple > weeks to a different project and I do not expect to have the time to do > justice to this SIGPLAN issue. > > Next year is still possible, of course. Anyways, I hate closing the door on > sending someone to the conference, but maybe it's not the right move for us > right now. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Just to follow up: > > > > Robert Bernecky said he felt impressed by some of the people putting > > together http://www.sable.mcgill.ca/array/. > > > > So I looked into what the costs and schedule would be like, to send him > > there. > > > > I think we are looking at about $2500 for the trip, and we would have to > > raise most of that in the next couple weeks, if we want to pull this off. > > So that ideally means we would need a corporate sponsorship of some sort. > > Some of us might be inclined to donate that personally, but for that kind > > of money I think it might be good if some corporation that wants a small > > advertising benefit gets the credit. > > > > He would need to submit a paper by April 2. The biggest part of the cost > > is air transport. The next biggest component is the cost of hotel. And > > there's a bit extra to cover other costs associated with the > presentation. > > Also, this is just an estimate, but if his trip needs more than this, > I'll > > plan on covering any shortfalls, myself. > > > > Two weeks is not a lot of time to make these kinds of financial > > arrangements. But note that we do not need the money in two weeks, we > just > > need to have confidence that the money would be made available in a > couple > > months. It would be embarrassing if he submitted a paper on our behalf > and > > then we left him to cover all of the costs himself. > > > > So, that leaves us with a new problem: what benefits does J offer to a > > corporate sponsor. > > > > Of course, there's the obvious and traditional benefits - being seen as > > active in a growing computing field, having contacts with people engaged > in > > researching and developing these kinds of applications, and reaching the > > students who will later be interested in this kind of work. It should > also > > be good for the J community, just to become actively involved with the > > other communities of people attending this conference. > > > > But it's worth repeating: two weeks might not be long enough to engage > > corporate interest. > > > > As an aside it might also be worthwhile for some of us here to buy a > > sigplan membership to get access to the proceedings (it's $25 - a good > > investment if you find the idea of developing array programming tools > > entertaining, maybe not such a good idea if you want this kind of > > information handed you on a platter). This is independent of whether or > not > > we raise enough money to send someone to represent us at the conference. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Raul > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> I've talked with Robert Bernecky about his interest, and he seemed > >> optimistic about the possibility. > >> > >> He also wanted to establish a clear definition of what he should > provide, > >> in return for sponsorship (and he made a few suggestions), and expressed > >> some concerns the conference itself (which he is looking into). > >> > >> Of course, this is all still tentative right now, but hopefully we will > >> reach a go/no-go decision point soon enough to either allow a clean > >> shutdown on this plan or to allow for adequate preparation for the > >> conference. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Raul > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Nollaig MacKenzie < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I would be willing to contribute a bit toward sending > >>> an emissary to the workshop. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Nollaig MacKenzie > >>> http://www.yorku.ca/nollaig > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Devon McCormick, CFA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
