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If you honestly belive that you could convince a
jury that the government put
KP on freenet just to entrap you.... thats pretty sad. See in the courts you need a little thing called evidence. Good luck finding some that shows the government is out to discredit freenet. And how would you purpose I track someone down on
the web that doesn't want to
be found? What extra anonymity does freenet give you that the web can't also offer? pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> > Oops, silly me, I didn't reply to the list :) > > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Whether or not you truly believe there is no illegal > > material on freenet is a question for the jury. > > Given the fact that there are numerous warnings > > about it, a huge number of frost boards are dedicate > > to KP, and all the main search pages have many > > listings for warz and KP; a jury probably would find > > it laughable. > Are UFOs laughable? Angels? Men in Black? Ghosts? > Government conspiracies? Need I go on? My belief in > this matter is not only not laughable, it very likely > true. I doubt people would have trouble believing > that various governments around the world would break > the law to discredit Freenet. After all the have the > means, motive and opportunity not to mention plausible > deniablility :) > > > People do have the right to communicate with out > > government oversight everywhere, including the > > internet. > > If all you do is communicate legal information > > anonymously then there is an alternative, its called > > the world wide web. > THE WEB IS NOT ANONYMOUS. Seriously. If you don't > undertand that then you are either ignorant or a > troll. I'm beginning to think it's the latter. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:37 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [freenet-chat] RE: anonymity(NOT) > > Importance: Low > > > > > > I have doubts that illegal material is posted on > > Freenet. After all, I haven't seen any illegal > > material, I've only heard rumors about it. However, > > if there is illegal material on Freenet it's my > > belief > > that this material is posted by > > governments/organizations hostile to the goals of > > Freenet and not retrieved by the legitimate users in > > the Freenet community. Even if the material is > > retrieved by someone I am sure it is by these same > > hostile governments/organizations in order to spread > > FUD about Freenet. Are my beliefs unreasonable? I > > don't know, a lot of people believe in UFOs, crop > > circles, invisible beings dressed in white with > > wings > > that help people, mysterious men in black, secret > > government conspiracies, etc. In this context my > > beliefs seem to reasonable to me. To suppose that > > an > > accused's state of mind isn't a defense is > > laughable. > > It's also ridiculous to argue that people have the > > right to communicate without government oversight, > > except on the internet. Let me say that I only use > > Freenet to communicate, anonymously, legal > > information > > and because there are no better alternatives. > > Unless > > your position is the government has the right to > > monitor ALL communication. I don't find that > > position > > funny at all but downright scary instead. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > > chat mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > |
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