Ok, I'll admit I was partly wrong. I didn't know that hotmail would stamp my IP address to my emails if I forwarded to their email server. (Time to make sure the old firewall is setup right hehe) But I still bet if I used their web mail interface it will fully hide my email address. And if it doesn't.... don't use hotmail, use yahoo. The only people who can asoscate your IP address to any personal infomation is your ISP. Unless of course you've given it out to anyone from that IP before..... but that wouldn't be very anonymous would it?
And yep Riverview, I'm surprised that it even named Riverview it's a tiny little town outside of Tampa. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=4&s=11&x=936&y=7698&z=17&w=1 You can make out my house under the trees on the west bank :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matthew Findley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] Re: anonymity(NOT) Really? Then I guess your ISP must be based in or close to Riverview, Florida, which is where your email headers indicate that your email originated (and that is using the first IP address locator Google gave me, I am sure others are much more accurate). For your information, most ISPs include the originating IP address in the email headers, this, to people with the appropriate resources (which is more people than you probably think), is as good as giving your name, date of birth, address, and social security number. Ian. On 8 Aug 2004, at 00:54, Matthew Findley wrote: > Email headers will only help you track someone down if they're running > their own mail server. > Unless our friend Mr. Pineapple is the yahoo system admin. > > X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jH3SWZY2IvBsc4poGI7TzuB > Received: from web41307.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.56]) by > mc8-f10.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); > Fri, 6 Aug 2004 22:02:10 -0700 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from [24.72.74.85] by web41307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, > 06 Aug 2004 22:02:10 PDT > Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 22:02:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] Re: anonymity(NOT) > To: Matthew Findley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2004 05:02:10.0366 (UTC) > FILETIME=[B1F38DE0:01C47C3B] > > And even if you were able to get my ip address (which you can just as > easly get from freenet) you would only be able to narrow it down. > Only your ISP would know who your actualy are. > More importantly this still asumess I'm useing my home computer. If > one was really worried about being anonymous there are any number of > free to use computers with internet connections at librarys and > collages across the country. > You could also use a wireless laptop and just go to various open > hotspots. > > > Ian Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On 6 Aug 2004, at 19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The WWW is very anonymous. If I hadn't used my real name in my > email > > > address there is no way you could tell who I am. > > > > Thw WWW is anonymous if you are worried about being tracked down by a > > computer illiterate 10 year old. If you are worried about someone > more > > sophisticated than that then the WWW is most certainly not > anonymous by > > almost any definition of the word. > > > > By looking at the headers of your email I could find the IP address > of > > your computer, as could the operator of any website you visit. Given > > that IP address, it is relatively trivial to find your location (do a > > Google search for "IP address location"). If I had the resources of > a > > moderately sized corporation, I could also correlate your IP > addresses > > with one of the many many websites that you have given your name to > and > > find out all sorts of other things about you. > > > > Ian. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > chat mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general _______________________________________________ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general
