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On Saturday 05 January 2002 23:07, you wrote:
> >  I'm even beginning to wonder whether or
> > not certain individuals in our government
> > KNEW of this attack before it
> > occured and were just waiting to grab at the
> > chance to take away our freedoms.
>
> Do you really think our government would allow people to be killed, just so
> they can pass legislation?

I am certain that the FBI and other similar groups have been waiting for 
something like this for years so they can get in all their wiretapping laws 
and such.  While elected areas of the government may be prone to stupidity, 
the unelected areas (such as the FBI/NSA/CIA/whatever) are often extremely 
intelligent.  I remember being told that you have to have a masters degree to 
get in to the US Marshels, and I believe that extends to the FBI as well.  
The NSA employs an awful lot of expert mathmatitions for creating and 
breaking crypto, so they're no fools.  These are the groups we should be most 
worried about.

Further, what else would make an unpopular president suddenly skyrocket to 
90%+ approval ratings?

I don't know if they really knew about the attacks beforehand, but the 
hypothisis fits the available facts.

>
> The government can't hide conspiracies. They are horrible at keeping
> secrets. That's why I never bought into the idea there's a UFO at area 51,
> simply because the government couldn't keep a secret for that long. They
> are too incompetent.

Perhaps not a UFO, but there most certianly is an Area 51 as a place to test 
experimental aircraft.  The military finally admitted to it's existance a few 
years ago, and then shut it down and moved to a new base (apprently in Utah), 
which they are now denying the existance of :)

<>
> I think the real issue here is why didn't we prevent this? Why was a plane
> able to actually crash into the pentagon? Don't they have an air defense?
> Why didn't they see it coming and evacuate the building? I see it as a perl
> harbor situation where our people were sitting on their ass (remember,
> radar told them we had incoming planes).

Not only radar, but crypto.  It was almost certain that FDR knew of the 
coming attack far in advance but did nothing (because he wanted a disaster 
that would unite the American people in a war).  Very much like today's 
situation.

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