> Dmitry Skylarov This will generate a lot of flames, but I think Dmitry was an idiot coming to America. He should be locked up for stupidity alone.
> Your government murders its prisoners (capital punishment) Sorry, but I support it. If that means that I'm in the same camp as Saudi Arabia, who's government I don't like, so be it. If you kill, you deserve to be killed. Too bad death row is so expensive, otherwise we could afford to kill a lot more of the murderers and rapists. Some people just can't be rehabilitated and ought to be executed, or deported to antartica, but not allowed out on parole. On the same token, I have much praise for whatever governor who suspended capital punishment in his state after DNA evidence showed an unacceptably high amount of inmates were innocent. This is a tough issue for me, and if more inmates are proven innocent I will likely change my view of the death penalty. > your government dictates to the world via your foreign policy Was helping to liberate Europe during WW I and II bad foreign policy? Was the gulf war bad policy? Of course my country screws up, but looking at how other countries have ruled the world, we are angels. Would you rather the Soviet's had been in our place today? Much of our foreign policy dictates are not that bad, and are not always done in our self interest. > how is the US government not murdering totalirians ? Perhaps you'd rather live in China? I live in America and I feel very safe. > Your government has 25% of the worlds prison population. Probably because our cops and prosecutors are better than yours. Separately, we lock up far to many non violent drug offenders. Add that together and we have too many prisoners. But 25% of the world's population has to be a wrong number. China's prison population is probably larger than our entire country. If not them, then China and India together are defiantly. It's not that we have lost of criminals, because all countries have lots of 'em, it's that ours are behind bars. > Your government has done many things it should be ashamed of. Damn right it has, but the fact is we know about it and won't likely let the same mistake repeat itself. Many other governments, such as the soviets, would hide it all so as to project that they are paradise. I'm curious, what country do you live in? > If there was more equality in the world > there would be less violence, but having > equality outside the US might cost AMERCIAN > jobs, that just would not do... much better > to just have a war ever 5 years or so. Wrong. If there was "equality" (as in equal strength) there would be more violence because countries would have a better chance at being able to take over other countries. But the fact that we are far stronger than other countries has kept WW 3 from happening, simply because it's obvious that we will win. To assume that the gulf war was started in order to jumpstart the economy is absurd. It was started because saddam invaded a country and threatened to invade another. And how is bombing Afghanistan and providing millions / billions in aid so as to jumpstart their country going to do anything for our economy other than tax it? That's a conspiracy theory, which not only has flawed logic, but could never be kept secret. > Do you think war is the tool any one type of government ? > Did your govenment not declare war on afghanistan. Fight fire with fire. Anything less than the bombing of Afghanistan and removal of the taliban would have caused me to be furious. We don't have to declare war in order to use the military for a short term operation. What if congress is out of session, do we wait for next spring until taking action? It's the president's job to command the military. * Over 1 million IRAQI children died becasue of lack of * food and medical equipment, does 1 million count as mass famine ? Wrong, Saddam allowed them to die. The answer is to remove saddam. (forgive the next paragraph, I don't want to dilute it with 10 pages of crap so as to appear politically correct) As for our policies that make the world hate us, well, no matter what we do there will be people who hate us. It's a given. The arabs hate us because we support Israel. So be it. The Palestinians should be smart enough to realize that under the turks they were slaughtered left and right, and if it wasn't for Britain taking Palestine from the turks they wouldn't even be here today. The Palestinians don't want a lasting peace, they want Israel destroyed. Arafat is a piece of shit terrorist who was offered everything he wanted by barak, and he turned it down because it would of meant an end of their "occupation". The fact is that the arab countries don't want a solution the Palestinian problem, they want it to be Israel's cancer forever. To put it bluntly, most of the surrounding arab countries are corrupt monarchies with next to no economy or jobs, because far too many of them are hash smoking backstabbing sand niggers who have yet to get off their asses and build a real country. Without their oil, they would be nothing. They would be starving Ethiopians . And for what it's worth, I'm not a jew. In fact, I know a lot of assholes that are jews, but when it comes to stereotypes I'd rather be surrounded by jews than arabs. The world actually feel's pity for Arafat and his cause. It makes me want to puke. Arafat invented airplane hijackings. He got where he is because of the promise that Bush Sr. made in exchange for the gulf war (which he shouldn't of had to of made). But by and large, Arafat has blown his historic opportunity, because he's a piece of shit. -----Original Message----- From: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Glenn McGrath Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:28 PM To: chat at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] The Coming Storm On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:37:12 -0600 "Mark J Roberts" <mjr at znex.org> wrote: > Travis Bemann: > > government is amoral and has no ethics > > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent > people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not > wage war on democracy and our free market? > Dmitry Skylarov Your government murders its prisoners (capital punishment), your government dictates to the world via your foreign policy, how is the US government not murdering totalirians ? > Despite whatever paranoid, drug-induced ramblings the admitted > communist and pedophile (he "earned" his doctorate with sexual > favors) Noam Chomsky exudes from the ivory tower, the simple and > obvious fact is that our government rocks. > Unless you can proove your personal comments about Noam Chomsky then try sticking to what you do know, it doesnt advance your argument at all. Your government has 25% of the worlds prison population. Your government has done many things it should be ashamed of. > > the optimum state of government is eternal war externally and > > totalitarianism internally > > I know you leftists are pining for eternal war and totalitarianism, > it's not a big secret - you support Soviet imperialism and Osama Bin > Laden, remember? (In fact, your raving pinko leader Chomsky recently > traveled to Pakistan to incite anti-American hatred and support for > the totalitarian Taliban theocracy.) > Do you think war is the tool any one type of government ? Did your govenment not declare way on afghanistan. > Yes, that's right, surely anyone who does not support mass murder > and famine and communism has been duped by the capitalist propaganda > organs. I must agree it's quite effective. > Over 1 million IRAQI children died becasue of lack of food and medical equipment, does 1 million count as mass famine ? Do you know many more innocent aghans have died than were killed in the WTC. > So you've said, you smug communist butcher. > Is there any logic in this statment ? > Of course communists such as yourself have no respect for the law. > Take your Marxist legal theory and your Gulag and move to North > Korea where they'll be appreciated. Please, go. > Are you afraid of what you dont understand, because you certainly havent shown any insight in ANY of your comments, and you seem to be just trying to send mindless insults rather than rational counter arguments. How old are you ? Glenn _______________________________________________ Chat mailing list Chat at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat _______________________________________________ Chat mailing list Chat at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/chat
