There is similarity between vi and J:
steep learning curve
terse but cryptic commands

there is a quote for vi that should also apply to J (or APL)

"To me, vi is Zen.
To use vi is to practice zen.
Every command is a koan.
Profound to the user,
unintelligible to the uninitiated.
You discover truth every time you use it."
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