I agree with the sentiment that having an ambassador for J in the
"bigger world" would be a timely thing right now. I was quite
surprised, about a year ago, to hear a senior developer at Adobe say
that they were working very hard to move away from C-like languages
to scripting languages for their major applications. (This was in a
casual chat at a social gathering.)
As was pointed out in the text version (I don't have access to the
PDF), scripting languages (and I greatly prefer J) have a real
advantage in server side web (2?) applications. Perl broke ground
there - PHP, Python and Ruby are very popular. Maybe some links
to/from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_programming_language
would get more people to look. The "headline" information there isn't
very "upbeat" - for example to say the "Typing discipline" is
"strong" rather than dynamic is just plain wrong.... I didn't bother
to research what contributor thought J and its users were "prone to
code obfuscation". Maybe cleaning articles like this one is akin to
advertising (and a lot lower budget than the amazing/amusing campaign
for Java that put it on everyone's radar...) Perhaps what is needed
is someone with marketing talent to spiff up the introduction. Even
better, as someone else suggested, would be to have some real success
stories more widely published.
Any forum members with a really hot web application that might be
done in J lurking out there???
At 18:32 +0200 2008/07/28, R.E. Boss wrote:
AFAICS the text file (at least) does not contain the reference
L. Prechelt, "An Empirical Comparison of Seven Programming
Languages," Computer, vol. 33, no. 10, 2000, pp. 23-29.
and the pdf does not contain the references
Shannon, Christine, Another breadth-first approach to CS I using
Python, Proceedings of the 34th SIGCSE technical symposium on Computer
science education, Reno, 2003.
Zelle, J.M., Python as a First Language, 13th Annual Midwest
Computer Conference, 1999.
neither does the pdf contain the links at the end of the text file.
It seems there are other (major?) differences too.
R.E. Boss
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Onderwerp: [Jprogramming] Re: In Praise of Scripting
Stephen Taylor tells me that the URL I gave for the named
article needs credentials to load it down. However, a draft
version seems to be freely available at
www.cse.wustl.edu/~loui/praiseieee.txt
and as far as I can see seems to have the same content,
just not so easy to read, being .txt.
> Neville Holmes, P.O. Box 2412, Bakery Hill 3354, Victoria
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