That is one more problem with J. Once you have written something and it is very short and correct then there are no bugs to fix. I worked for many years for IBM and the quality assurance people had problems with our code. They had tables that said that so and so many lines of code contained so and so many bugs. We had convinced them that every line of APL code were equivalent to a lot more of other computer languages and then they "knew" that there were so and so many bugs in the code we produced. The reason for them not finding any bugs just meant that there were still so and so many found bugs in the product yet to be found. There are a lot of APL (and that also means J) systems that are out there just running and no maintenance.
2009/12/10 Matthew Brand <[email protected]>: > If the rest of the world does not use J then perhaps so much the > better - it yeilds those who do a competitive advantage. J'ers just > have to get a major government to code their stuff in J and there will > be jobs for their children, and thier childrens children ... fixing > the bugs of their fathers and grandfathers :-)). > > > > 2009/12/10 Dan Bron <[email protected]>: >> James C Field wrote: >>> Dan has told us that he has made a living from J. Best of luck to him. >>> That's one guy. >> >> I thought I showed you some other guys? >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Stories >> >> See also the list of " representative users" at the bottom of: >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com >> >>> made a living for hundreds of people in countries >>> and corporations around the world. >> >> And Perl makes (not "made") a living for tens of thousands of people in even >> more countries around the world, and Java makes (not >> "made") a living for millions (tens of millions?) of people in every country >> that has electricity*, and .... >> >> As others asked, what scale "counts"? If I had to predict your answer: " as >> much as APL, but more doesn't matter". >> >> And I do not see J's comparative niche market as a failure of J, but rather >> as a failure of APL (in general). Put another way, J was >> poorly timed, catching the tail end of APL's popularity, which has been on >> the decline for decades. And as much as I love the >> languages, I don't see them coming back. Though some of its best features >> are appearing in other languages (particularly, the >> automation of the detestable loop). Its legacy, our legacy, will survive. >> >> -Dan >> >> * Yes, I'm making these statistics up. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 sími: +3544781286 http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
