Thank you Michael,

I had no problems with Vista machines.

My Mac troubles were resolved by a kind J'er, Ron.

My pocket pc's I got going via a Vista netbook, J works, but access is unusual. 

Ian kindly sent an SD card and it did not install nor could i get it going via 
the SD card, Ian sent detailed instructions on how I might get it going via the 
SD card, but neither he nor I were confident it would eventually work.

Yes, a shame re J not being on i pod ... devices, yet.

thanks
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