Hi Roger,

I am a bit confused (not the first time :) ) In the case of Evoke (m~), I 
thought m was a noun. I think I may be misunderstanding this on a conceptual 
level, as I don't see how Evoke modifies a verb. With regard to the use of 
'tricky', I would completely agree that this is a subjective view, and probably 
shouldn't be used when introducing concepts.

Cheers, bob

On 2010-11-22, at 9:47 AM, Roger Hui wrote:

> I have not viewed the videos.  I have read the text
> of the first link and there is a factual error:
> 
>   The tricky part is that to be truly useful the adverb 
>   changes its action depending on what part of speech 
>   it is modifying ...
> 
> This is incorrect because an adverb always modifies a verb,
> just like its most common use in English.
> 
> I would also argue with your assertion that adverbs are
> tricky, but that's a matter of opinion.  "Everyone" 
> understands run quickly, eat quickly, talk quickly, etc.  
> For the mathematically inclined you can also mention
> "function family".
> 
> What _is_ tricky is the alternative model/explanation 
> that adverbs replace.  There you have to offer a tortured 
> and intimidating explanation of function vs. operator, 
> Heaviside operator, tensor analysis, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bob therriault <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:33
> Subject: [Jchat] A visual look at the Reflexive Adverb
> To: [email protected]
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I've posted two screencasts on the use of adverbs in J.
>> 
>> The first is a look at J adverbs in general using ~ as an 
>> example [1] and the second is a more specific look at the 
>> Reflexive Adverb [2]. I look forward to feedback.
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>> [1] http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/those-tricky-
>> adverbs/[2] 
>> http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/reflexive-adverb-
>> monadic/
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