Yes, you got me there for m~ .  But by far the majority
of adverbs modify verbs (or gerunds, those verb like nouns),
and I myself would not get into the few cases (and gerunds)
with beginners.



----- Original Message -----
From: bob therriault <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:33
Subject: Re: [Jchat] A visual look at the Reflexive Adverb
To: Chat forum <[email protected]>

> Hi Roger,
> 
> I am a bit confused (not the first time :) ) In the case of 
> Evoke (m~), I thought m was a noun. I think I may be 
> misunderstanding this on a conceptual level, as I don't see how 
> Evoke modifies a verb. With regard to the use of 'tricky', I 
> would completely agree that this is a subjective view, and 
> probably shouldn't be used when introducing concepts.
> 
> Cheers, bob
> 
> On 2010-11-22, at 9:47 AM, Roger Hui wrote:
> 
> > I have not viewed the videos.  I have read the text
> > of the first link and there is a factual error:
> > 
> >   The tricky part is that to be truly useful the 
> adverb 
> >   changes its action depending on what part of 
> speech 
> >   it is modifying ...
> > 
> > This is incorrect because an adverb always modifies a verb,
> > just like its most common use in English.
> > 
> > I would also argue with your assertion that adverbs are
> > tricky, but that's a matter of opinion.  "Everyone" 
> > understands run quickly, eat quickly, talk quickly, etc.  
> > For the mathematically inclined you can also mention
> > "function family".
> > 
> > What _is_ tricky is the alternative model/explanation 
> > that adverbs replace.  There you have to offer a tortured 
> > and intimidating explanation of function vs. operator, 
> > Heaviside operator, tensor analysis, etc.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bob therriault <[email protected]>
> > Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:33
> > Subject: [Jchat] A visual look at the Reflexive Adverb
> > To: [email protected]
> > 
> >> Greetings,
> >> 
> >> I've posted two screencasts on the use of adverbs in J.
> >> 
> >> The first is a look at J adverbs in general using ~ as an 
> >> example [1] and the second is a more specific look at the 
> >> Reflexive Adverb [2]. I look forward to feedback.
> >> 
> >> Cheers, bob
> >> 
> >> [1] http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/those-
> tricky-
> >> adverbs/[2] 
> >> http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/reflexive-
> adverb-
> >> monadic/
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