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Rich,
Thanks for the idea. After talking with Ausley's yesterday (they want
$209 w/o shipping) & the Bumper Boyz today (they want $295 for one w/o
shipping), I'm inclined to look at one of Ausley's at Carlisle to see
what they look like & then decide from there.
I suppose I could buy one from Ausley's and then think about getting my
original one chromed somewhere down the road once it is off the car and a
repro one on it....
Jim -69-SS396- H.
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:35:20 -0500 "Richard Milkiewicz"
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> Jim, I wasn't talking about turning your bumper in for another. Take
> yours
> to a plater and have them replate it for you. Most good platers can
> do
> wonders with a bad bumper. Even fix rust holes. I had my Nova bumper
> replated here in Mich. The car was hit in the rear and the bumper
> was dented
> up pretty good. After they gave it back to me you would have to look
> at the
> back side to tell it was repaired. It turned out better than new.
> COST......
> $300.00 for both front and back. (1996). I'm sure prices have gone
> up.
> Rich
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> > Thanks for the phone number. The front bumper on my car
> currently is
> > WAY too good to hand over as a core, but yet it does have a couple
> of
> > small rust spots on it, so I'm not sure how well it would come out
> > replated (as well as I don't know what it would cost).
> >
> > Jim -69-SS396- H.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:07:01 -0500 "Richard Milkiewicz"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > > Jim, the phone number for Bumper Boyz is (800) 815-9009. Do you
> have
> > > an old
> > > set of bumpers that can be replated? This might be the way to
> go.
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> > > From: "Jim R Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 8:56 PM
> > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Opinions on Ausley's bumpers
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> > >
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> > > > After calling the "usual" catalog vendors over the weekend
> that we
> > > > usually do parts business with (Year One, OPG, The Paddock and
> > > NPD), I
> > > > found that only Year One will attend Carlisle and they will
> only
> > > be
> > > > taking orders there (not bringing any parts whatsoever).
> > > >
> > > > I called Ausley's today (who we've never dealt with, but whom
> > > we've seen
> > > > at Carlisles the past few years we've come). know come to
> > > Carlisle). The
> > > > guy on the phone told me that they will indeed be at Carlisle
> this
> > > year
> > > > and that their bumper prices are now $209 (pretty much
> matching
> > > the
> > > > catalog prices of the other vendors we usually deal with). He
> > > said that
> > > > they'll bring 5 of each year's bumpers by default and that
> they
> > > will
> > > > bring extras labelled by customer name if requested at least 2
> > > weeks
> > > > before the show.
> > > >
> > > > So, anyone out there have any positive or negative stories to
> tell
> > > about
> > > > Ausley's bumpers? I'm really hoping that they would bring
> one
> > > and let
> > > > me examine it before they run my credit card (as I'd really
> like
> > > to look
> > > > at the quality of any bumper before I commit to buying it),
> but
> > > maybe
> > > > they won't do that.
> > > >
> > > > Also, anyone have a phone number for the Bumper Boyz, as I'd
> like
> > > to talk
> > > > to them before Carlisle, too. Since we've never done business
> > > with them
> > > > *and* we've heard some negative things about them, I'm a bit
> wary
> > > to do
> > > > business with them (and there's no way I'm giving up my
> current
> > > bumper as
> > > > a core!), but I figure I shoudl at least try to get as much
> info
> > > on every
> > > > vendor that I can, since this is a piece fo the car that is
> going
> > > to be
> > > > very visible!
> > > >
> > > > As always, thank for any opinions in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Jim -69-SS396- H.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, has anyone measured the thickness of an original
> NOS
> > > bumper
> > > > against the ones of Ausley (or anyone else such as the Bumper
> > > Boyz, for
> > > > that matter?
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donnie,
I have original GM tips on my 70. I'll get the number for you when I get
home tonight,
Tom
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I found a piece of the build sheet in my 69 under the rear seat. another
piece was found behind a kick panel, but it was undecipherable. I found
2
complete broadcast sheets in my cousins Cuda. I wish I had complete ones
for
my 69 & 70, that would make my day.
Tom
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Well if any one on this list knows that there car was built in Canada, as
mine was, you may request a copy of the build sheet that was for your
car, as
they kept Records of that stuff, un like the good ole US of A, just need
the
numbers from the vin , and your good to go. the Adress for it is General
Motors of Canada Limited
1908 Colonel sam drive, Oshawa, Ontario Canada, L1H 8P7
Ken D.
1972 HeavyChevyChevelle
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I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need
to
put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of
dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be
racing
it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive
it
down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing
around
the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd
appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo.
Tom
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A friend of mine got two build sheets out of his '70 Chevelle SS
convertible. One was for his car, the other was for the next car in the
build sequence (I guess the one right behind his on the assembly line)!
If
I recall, I think the other one might even be a Monte VIN. Were they
built
on the same assembly line?
Darrell Spencer
Cave Creek, AZ
'70 Malibu
'66 El Camino
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Well i know in Canada they were built on the same assembly line, the
editor
of the club magazine that i get told me that mine was built right befor
his
and his was a monte.
Ken D. 72 HCC
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My 68 El Camino had a 468"/700R4/4.10 combo with 27.7" tall rear tires.
If I
would've had it to do over again,I would not run a 4.10 with that trans &
engine; way too much gear. My suggestion would be a 3.55 or 3.31. Even
with
a 3.31,you will have plenty of punch with the big block & 700R4. If you
stay
with the TH400,I would go with the 3.55's and a tall rear tire.
Clint Hooper
LT5 Registry
Wichita Falls,Tx
(940) 855-6636 anytime
'90 ZR-1 Red/Red #952
TX TAGS: USA ZR1
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need
to
> put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking
of
> dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be
racing
> it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do
drive
it
> down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing
around
> the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd
> appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo.
> Tom
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Larry, if it wasnt built in Canada how do they know what options were
installed, seems to me that it had to be built there to know that info,
usa
didnt keep records, thanks for the info about getting mine, i allready
have
it, i got it through the chevelle club that i am a member of up there in
Canada
Ken D.
72 HCC
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SOme cars that were built in Canada & Baltimore were shipped to Canada
for
sale, those cars will be able to be tracked down too.
Tom
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let me correct myself on that last post,
some cars built in Kansas City & Baltimore were shipped to Canada for
sale.
I don't know why i said some built in Canada, not thinking straight, lol
Tom
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>I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need
to
>put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking of
>dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be
racing
>it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do drive
it
>down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing
around
>the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd
>appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo.
>
>Tom
With that motor a 3.31 & 700R4 will boil the tires off & be great
on the highway.
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no problem but still they were built here in the USA so im thinking
there for there still is no record of the build cause they didnt keep
those
records only Canada did wether they were built here or in japan,
anyvehicle
built here no matter where shipped cause thats irelivant to the fact that
USA>
didnt keep records no im only guessing i could be wrong but thats what
ive
been told
Ken D
72 HeavyChevy
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Tom i thought Baltimore, was in USA. if were built in USA.then there is
no
record of the build sheet cause USA. didnt keep those records, Canada
did
how ever now wether they requested it or what i dont know im no expert on
build sheets for sure
Ken D.
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I agre with clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55 will
work nicely, especially with an OD. I have a s/b with 700r4 and 3.31,
my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better.
Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new
carrier?
rick schaefer
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http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L
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> I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I
> need to
> put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was
> thinking of
> dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to
> be racing
> it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do
> drive it
> down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also
> tossing around
> the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now.
> I'd
> appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo.
>
> Tom
>
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Larry i hope your not leaving because of me lol as u say in this list
that
Canadian vehicles built and shipped that is correct there built in
Canada
and shipped to the USA. thats what my car is it was built in Canada for
sale
to the USA. so there for i have the copy from Canada cause they kept the
records USA. did not thats all im saying but dont leave on the count
of
me please i love the info you post good knowledge from you Thanks.
Ken D.
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Hey Tom
I will have to agree with everyone that either a 3.31 or 3.55 gear would
be great. Right now you could do the gears and then do the trans down the
road. Valid point was brought up, what series carrier do you have now? If
you are going to get the 3.31's you better start looking now as noone
makes them new, you gotta reuse a GM set.
On the note of the 700. Mom's car has 3.55's and just loves to cruise
with
the torque of the big block. Although we were all set to put a 3.31 in it
when we found out the housing was an early one. So were just gonna save
it
for the 65 and stick with the gears she has now.
We can talk about this more at the next meeting if ya want...
later
JJ
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> I need a consensus here. What gear ratios is everyone running. I need
to
> put a new ring & pinion in my 70. It now has 4.10's. I was thinking
of
> dropping it down to 3.73 simply for the fact that I'm not going to be
racing
> it anymore, and plan on doing some more highway use with it. i do
drive it
> down to Maryland from here in Jersey on occasions. I was also tossing
around
> the idea of putting a 700R4 in it to replace the TH400 in it now. I'd
> appreciate any info from anyone running a 454/700R4/3.73 combo.
>
> Tom
>
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Since we're on the subject, what do you guys suggest for a 396/4 speed
combo? I was thinking 3.31 or 3.55. I would like to be able to drive on
the highway for long distances occasionally.
Thanks,
Matt
'69 Malibu
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Yes,you will need a new carrier,Rick. That's probably the main reason I
never switched to 3.55's.
Clint Hooper
LT5 Registry
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(940) 855-6636 anytime
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TX TAGS: USA ZR1
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> I agree with Clint. Behind the torque of a big block 3.31 or 3.55
will
> work nicely, especially with an OD. I have a s/b with 700r4 and
3.31,
> my seat of the pants feeling is for my combo 3.55 would be better.
> Question though, if you drop lower than the 3.73, will you need a new
> carrier?
>
> rick schaefer
> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html
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No you wouldnt as long as stay in the 3 series, i just went through it my
self this past year i put back the original gear set that was in there
when
built which was 3.36.1 ratio was 373 ratio it has a m21, and going down
the
highway with 373 was tuff i would be winding the motor out more then i
liked
to to get to a cruisin speed thats why i went with the original i would
have liked the 342 ratio but i couldnt get it cause i have a 10bolt rear
Ken D.
72 HCC
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if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's & TH400 & 28"
tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it
gets
15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a little
more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot
of
road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like
ordering
a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used
gears,
thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it are
used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for
buying
a done rear.
Tom
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Hi,
For 12 bolt C axle
I know that Richmond makes two different sets of 3,73's one for the 3
series
carrier and one for the 4 series carrier.
They also make 4,88 4,56 4,10 3,90 to fit the 3 series carrier
I don't think that you can go lower than 3,73 with the 4 series carrier.
I installed this gears last summer behind a small block and a Muncie,
it's
a little bit short on the top end but it should be ok behind your
possible
0,70 ratio on 4th gear which would make it a 2,61
Andr�
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Every 4-series gear I ever heard had a pretty good whine. I think that's
pretty normal. Especially the 4.30:1 F**d I once had under a '70 M*****g
(when I was still over on the dark side).
Darrell
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>if anyone at all was wondering, right now with the 4.10's & TH400 & 28"
>tires, the car turns 3700 RPMs at 80 mph. I still can't believe that it
gets
>15 mpg at that rate either. I was thinking I could improve that a
little
>more and still do 100' burnouts :) Since like I said it does make a lot
of
>road trips that are in excess of 100 miles. I also don't feel like
ordering
>a new carrier, thats why I said 3.73. I also won't use a set of used
gears,
>thats why I have to change them in the first place. The 4.10's in it
are
>used and whines so loud its not funny. I guess that's what I get for
buying
>a done rear.
OK here's the old hot rodder's take on rear axle ratios and trannys. Keep
the TH-400 and get a 3.73 gear set. Why not do the four speed?. You could
get your 400 rebuilt and shift kitted twice before you could pay for the
700....granted the 700 is a very good tranny, but it may be more
expensive
in the long run if you race it much. I think it's best to be at or less
than 3K when cruising the highways. The 3.42 10 bolt is what all the
G-body
guys strive for, but If I could change my 3.08 tomorrow, I'd go 3.73. I
drive the freeways about 40 miles a day and cruising at 80 runs 3k on the
tach. Mileage? Who cares, I didn't buy my car to get good mileage, that's
what "TowRopers" are for....:)
Kelly C. Hanna
www.hannawoodworks.com
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David: I have read in more than one place that some (few) late '69's were
built with the hood stripes. I would assume that they were the same as
the
'70 pattern.
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] SS hood stripes on '69 el Camino?
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> I've been pretty set on having the SS hood stripes painted on my '69
Elky
> while I'm having it painted now. My understanding at this point is that
the
> Elky's did not come with the SS stripes on the hood and I guess this
means
> they were not an option like they were on the Chevelles. This leads me
to
> think of leaving them off, even though I'm not doing a stock color for
the
> paint. I also wanted to do the lower side in a two tone color like you
could
> get on the non SS cars. Because the SS cars didn't have the lower side
body
> molding, I was thinking of doing the SS stripe on the side instead.
Anyone
> have the dimensions for this?
> I bought the Photofacts El Camino book to help me research this but it
turned
> out to be a waste of money, not telling me what options were available
for
> individual years and instead showing me some bogus pictures of used
(modified
> paint) El Caminos for the '69 year and not factory schemes or paint
options.
> So now, I'm thinking of the SS stripe on the side and probably the
Chevelle
> SS stripes on the BB hood, just because I think it shows off the form
of
the
> hood better.
> So, does anyone have the dimensions of the hood stripes for the '69
model.
> Also, does anyone have an example of the lower side two tone without
the
> lower body side molding?
> I guess I could have a pinstripe border between the two colors.
> And I need to decide SOON. The shop wants to paint next week.
> Thanks,
> David
>
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