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The history of the AFB for those who are interested, is that years ago Carter made them, hence the Carter AFB. This was when Carter was owned by a company called ACF (if memory serves). At some point in the 80's, ACF sold the carter brand to Federal Mogul. They made what they thought was 10 years worth of carburators and scrapped the tooling. The assumption was that the design would become obsolete due to emission controls and electronics. They ran out of carburetors well before 10 years, (I think it was around 1986 or 7 that your couldn't get your hands on a new one anymore). Edelbrock, seeing an opportunity to make a buck, negotiated a deal for the patents with Federal Mogul. They contracted with Weber to cast the bodies from the old design & FM patents. They (Edelbrock) redesigned the internals somewhat. FM retained the right to use the design also, which is why you can buy the carburetor from both companies. About 5 years ago, the last I was associated with FM, they used a version of the original internals. So both Edelbrock and Carter carbs look similar and use the same casting, but somewhat different internals. Glenn >From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Holley vs. Edelbrock >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:16:06 -0500 > ><< >I don't think anybody is upset, but for some reason this comes up on both >of >the car lists that I'm on all the time. There seems to be an urban legend >that says that Edelbrock carburetors are actually Carters, or that >Edelbrock >buys their stuff from Carter, etc. It's just not true. And sure, you can >buy >a brand new Carter AFB right now if you feel like it. They are still being >made but usually a few dollars (literally) more than the Edelbrock >counterpart. > >> > >< >So the actual story is that instead of Edlebrock buying anything from >Carter, they buy the bodies from Weber.....who make Carter....easy to see >why everybody gets confused...maybe if someone were to provide the article >that explains this to the lists, there would be no more speculation. I'm >sure since they are identical (Edlebrock and Carter) on the outside that >this is a very common misconception. So where did you learn of the real >story? > > > > >Well, no. I didn't quite say that Weber makes Carter. Both Carter & >Edelbrock buy their carb bodies from Weber, which is ultimately owned by >FIAT. I'm sure the Carter people love this common misconception that they >somehow manufacture their competitor's product(s). I think the Carter AFBs >were around before Edelbrock started buying the carb bodies from Weber and >selling them under their own name. I think that's why people think that >Edelbrocks are Carters, or that Carter sells anything at all to Edelbrock. >But the story is very simply that both Carter and Edelbrock buy the carb >bodies from the same company, which is why they look do similar, and both >companies manufacture their own internals. > >Now, as far as comparing the two, I have never heard anybody say that one >is >better than the other. I only went w/ the Edelbrock because it was about $5 >cheaper, and I was buying an Edelbrock intake as well. > >Oddly enough, the Edelbrock open-element air cleaner does not fit on the >Edelbrock (or Carter) carburetor unless you also buy either a spacer or a >banjo fitting for the fuel line. I opted for the latter because I had not >installed the engine yet and didn't know how much hood clearance I would >have. The adaptor was something like $10 from Jegs, and I think they >charged >me about $12 shipping. I remember being pretty annoyed at that. It came in >a >huge box with all kinds of packing material for a stupid little fuel line >connector shrink-wrapped to a card, which could have been put in a padded >envelope and mailed for about 50 cents. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ----------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
