Karim,

On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:26:43 AM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>
> They are slowly getting convinced, but they adamantly want to stick to 
> ChicagoBoss over Zotonic
> if we are going to use Erlang which we will, since I have had a very good 
> experience back in 
> 2001 when I was involved (as a partner not as a developer) in creating a 
> layer 5 switch totally built in erlang.  
>

Erlang is an excellent language/runtime for web applications, and offers a 
number of advantages over the other languages and frameworks mentioned in 
this thread.  Additionally, Elixer, another language for the EVM, can be 
used as well.  Elixer is gaining allot of support from some serious players 
in the Ruby/Ruby On Rails community like Dave Thomas.  Your developers 
should pick up enough Erlang/Elixer quickly enough that they can get the 
the basics done, and grow from there.  If they can't, you should reconsider 
the real value of your team.  Over the long run, I think you, and your team 
would be happier with ChicagoBoss.  Going with a general purpose framework 
will allow you to more easily grow into your real requirements :)
   

> As I had mentioned previously we are building a site that is similar to 
> Trip Advisor but for the online gambling
> industry, so if we are going to be starting from scratch with CB and would 
> have to create all the following modules
>
> 1. CMS (with all the standard functionality such as seo modules, RSS 
> feeds, support for media embedding
> 2. Forum
> 3. Social Media integration (Facebook login and registration and profile 
> synching)
> 4. Review modules
>
> Could something like this be done in 6 months with 4-5 developers using CB?
>

You should have a good start in 6 months, but it seems a little naive to 
think that you will be at parity with a site like Trip Advisor that has 
been under development for years.
 

Regards
-- Nick



> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:13:00 AM UTC-6, David Welton wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for your reply, I have decided to use some sort of Erlang 
>> Framwework 
>> > to develop a site that is similar in features to 
>> > Trip Advisor, we have thrown away 3 complete rewrites in PHP, my 
>> biggest 
>> > issue right now is that my developers are pushing 
>> > really hard to go with Django, and they tell me that Erlang is not well 
>> > suited to this type of project and there are no large scale 
>> > websites that use Erlang, and information I can use to prove my point 
>> would 
>> > be of great help. I do have to say that they have 
>> > no experience with Erlang but my take is that they can definitely learn 
>> it. 
>>
>> If you hired them to code, presumably they know what they are doing 
>> and are giving you good advice, no? 
>>
>> For *most* new sites, the difficult problem is finding product/market 
>> fit - can we get the right mix of features/community/whatever to make 
>> it successful?  This often requires rapid iteration - adding new 
>> stuff, trying new ideas, and with something like Django, or Ruby on 
>> Rails, or even PHP, you're more likely to find a lot of code to use 
>> out of the box. 
>>
>> Where Erlang is really good is that it uses fewer resources to 
>> accomplish the same thing.  One area where Erlang *really* shines is 
>> if you need to use web sockets.  Those just aren't a good fit for 
>> Rails or Django.  For some kinds of projects, these things are 
>> critical - for many, though, they are not. 
>>
>> There are certainly large and well-known projects that utilize Erlang. 
>>  Whatsapp.  Facebook used to use it for their chat system 
>>
>> -- 
>> David N. Welton 
>>
>> http://www.welton.it/davidw/ 
>>
>> http://www.dedasys.com/ 
>>
>

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