Karim,

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:49:38 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>
> Nick one more quick question, do you think Riak would be the best choice 
> as far as databases to use with CB?
>

If a NoSQLDB is right for your project, Riak would be a good choice. 
 However, Postgresql also has allot to offer as well.

-- Nick


 

> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:13:04 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote:
>>
>> Karim,
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>>>
>>> Nick thanks for your valuable input,
>>>
>>> My developers are already getting up to speed and are loving CB/Erlang, 
>>> Elixir is next.
>>>
>>
>>   Awesome,  happy they are loving it!  
>>
>> As far as developing the product I described in 6 months that is 
>>> obviously not going to be the
>>> full feature set of Trip Advisor as we don't even need that much, only 
>>> the components I mentioned
>>> above.
>>>
>>
>>   Thanks for the clarification!  Please share the site with us when your 
>> ready!
>>
>>    -- Nick
>>
>>  
>>
>>>  
>>>
>> Thanks,
>>> Karim
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:01:32 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Karim,
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:26:43 AM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> They are slowly getting convinced, but they adamantly want to stick to 
>>>>> ChicagoBoss over Zotonic
>>>>> if we are going to use Erlang which we will, since I have had a very 
>>>>> good experience back in 
>>>>> 2001 when I was involved (as a partner not as a developer) in creating 
>>>>> a layer 5 switch totally built in erlang.  
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Erlang is an excellent language/runtime for web applications, and 
>>>> offers a number of advantages over the other languages and frameworks 
>>>> mentioned in this thread.  Additionally, Elixer, another language for the 
>>>> EVM, can be used as well.  Elixer is gaining allot of support from some 
>>>> serious players in the Ruby/Ruby On Rails community like Dave Thomas.  
>>>> Your 
>>>> developers should pick up enough Erlang/Elixer quickly enough that they 
>>>> can 
>>>> get the the basics done, and grow from there.  If they can't, you should 
>>>> reconsider the real value of your team.  Over the long run, I think you, 
>>>> and your team would be happier with ChicagoBoss.  Going with a general 
>>>> purpose framework will allow you to more easily grow into your real 
>>>> requirements :)
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>>> As I had mentioned previously we are building a site that is similar 
>>>>> to Trip Advisor but for the online gambling
>>>>> industry, so if we are going to be starting from scratch with CB and 
>>>>> would have to create all the following modules
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. CMS (with all the standard functionality such as seo modules, RSS 
>>>>> feeds, support for media embedding
>>>>> 2. Forum
>>>>> 3. Social Media integration (Facebook login and registration and 
>>>>> profile synching)
>>>>> 4. Review modules
>>>>>
>>>>> Could something like this be done in 6 months with 4-5 developers 
>>>>> using CB?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should have a good start in 6 months, but it seems a little naive 
>>>> to think that you will be at parity with a site like Trip Advisor that has 
>>>> been under development for years.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> -- Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:13:00 AM UTC-6, David Welton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thanks for your reply, I have decided to use some sort of Erlang 
>>>>>> Framwework 
>>>>>> > to develop a site that is similar in features to 
>>>>>> > Trip Advisor, we have thrown away 3 complete rewrites in PHP, my 
>>>>>> biggest 
>>>>>> > issue right now is that my developers are pushing 
>>>>>> > really hard to go with Django, and they tell me that Erlang is not 
>>>>>> well 
>>>>>> > suited to this type of project and there are no large scale 
>>>>>> > websites that use Erlang, and information I can use to prove my 
>>>>>> point would 
>>>>>> > be of great help. I do have to say that they have 
>>>>>> > no experience with Erlang but my take is that they can definitely 
>>>>>> learn it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you hired them to code, presumably they know what they are doing 
>>>>>> and are giving you good advice, no? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For *most* new sites, the difficult problem is finding product/market 
>>>>>> fit - can we get the right mix of features/community/whatever to make 
>>>>>> it successful?  This often requires rapid iteration - adding new 
>>>>>> stuff, trying new ideas, and with something like Django, or Ruby on 
>>>>>> Rails, or even PHP, you're more likely to find a lot of code to use 
>>>>>> out of the box. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where Erlang is really good is that it uses fewer resources to 
>>>>>> accomplish the same thing.  One area where Erlang *really* shines is 
>>>>>> if you need to use web sockets.  Those just aren't a good fit for 
>>>>>> Rails or Django.  For some kinds of projects, these things are 
>>>>>> critical - for many, though, they are not. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are certainly large and well-known projects that utilize 
>>>>>> Erlang. 
>>>>>>  Whatsapp.  Facebook used to use it for their chat system 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> David N. Welton 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.welton.it/davidw/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dedasys.com/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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