Karim,

On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>
> Nick thanks for your valuable input,
>
> My developers are already getting up to speed and are loving CB/Erlang, 
> Elixir is next.
>

  Awesome,  happy they are loving it!  

As far as developing the product I described in 6 months that is obviously 
> not going to be the
> full feature set of Trip Advisor as we don't even need that much, only the 
> components I mentioned
> above.
>

  Thanks for the clarification!  Please share the site with us when your 
ready!

   -- Nick

 

>  
>
Thanks,
> Karim
>



 

>
> On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:01:32 PM UTC-6, Nick Pavlica wrote:
>>
>> Karim,
>>
>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:26:43 AM UTC-7, Karim Dahmani wrote:
>>>
>>> They are slowly getting convinced, but they adamantly want to stick to 
>>> ChicagoBoss over Zotonic
>>> if we are going to use Erlang which we will, since I have had a very 
>>> good experience back in 
>>> 2001 when I was involved (as a partner not as a developer) in creating a 
>>> layer 5 switch totally built in erlang.  
>>>
>>
>> Erlang is an excellent language/runtime for web applications, and offers 
>> a number of advantages over the other languages and frameworks mentioned in 
>> this thread.  Additionally, Elixer, another language for the EVM, can be 
>> used as well.  Elixer is gaining allot of support from some serious players 
>> in the Ruby/Ruby On Rails community like Dave Thomas.  Your developers 
>> should pick up enough Erlang/Elixer quickly enough that they can get the 
>> the basics done, and grow from there.  If they can't, you should reconsider 
>> the real value of your team.  Over the long run, I think you, and your team 
>> would be happier with ChicagoBoss.  Going with a general purpose framework 
>> will allow you to more easily grow into your real requirements :)
>>    
>>
>>> As I had mentioned previously we are building a site that is similar to 
>>> Trip Advisor but for the online gambling
>>> industry, so if we are going to be starting from scratch with CB and 
>>> would have to create all the following modules
>>>
>>> 1. CMS (with all the standard functionality such as seo modules, RSS 
>>> feeds, support for media embedding
>>> 2. Forum
>>> 3. Social Media integration (Facebook login and registration and profile 
>>> synching)
>>> 4. Review modules
>>>
>>> Could something like this be done in 6 months with 4-5 developers using 
>>> CB?
>>>
>>
>> You should have a good start in 6 months, but it seems a little naive to 
>> think that you will be at parity with a site like Trip Advisor that has 
>> been under development for years.
>>  
>>
>> Regards
>> -- Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 24, 2014 3:13:00 AM UTC-6, David Welton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks for your reply, I have decided to use some sort of Erlang 
>>>> Framwework 
>>>> > to develop a site that is similar in features to 
>>>> > Trip Advisor, we have thrown away 3 complete rewrites in PHP, my 
>>>> biggest 
>>>> > issue right now is that my developers are pushing 
>>>> > really hard to go with Django, and they tell me that Erlang is not 
>>>> well 
>>>> > suited to this type of project and there are no large scale 
>>>> > websites that use Erlang, and information I can use to prove my point 
>>>> would 
>>>> > be of great help. I do have to say that they have 
>>>> > no experience with Erlang but my take is that they can definitely 
>>>> learn it. 
>>>>
>>>> If you hired them to code, presumably they know what they are doing 
>>>> and are giving you good advice, no? 
>>>>
>>>> For *most* new sites, the difficult problem is finding product/market 
>>>> fit - can we get the right mix of features/community/whatever to make 
>>>> it successful?  This often requires rapid iteration - adding new 
>>>> stuff, trying new ideas, and with something like Django, or Ruby on 
>>>> Rails, or even PHP, you're more likely to find a lot of code to use 
>>>> out of the box. 
>>>>
>>>> Where Erlang is really good is that it uses fewer resources to 
>>>> accomplish the same thing.  One area where Erlang *really* shines is 
>>>> if you need to use web sockets.  Those just aren't a good fit for 
>>>> Rails or Django.  For some kinds of projects, these things are 
>>>> critical - for many, though, they are not. 
>>>>
>>>> There are certainly large and well-known projects that utilize Erlang. 
>>>>  Whatsapp.  Facebook used to use it for their chat system 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> David N. Welton 
>>>>
>>>> http://www.welton.it/davidw/ 
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dedasys.com/ 
>>>>
>>>

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