I hear this so often...and have faced it myself as a breeder, when a breeder tells a new owner that a pups is housebroken, then the pup messes in the house so the new owner feels misled. Truth is, he probably WAS housebroken when he left his breeder. It wasn't anything you did, but the pup gets into a routine with his littermates and other dogs in the household and then when he is taken to his new home, that routine is changed and the pup is unsure how to adapt. It can be very frustrating!! I have recently gotten two new older chis and they were housebroken, but I am having difficulty with them here because I don't have the same routine their previous owners do. Basically, you have to start all over. Housebreak them as if they have never been housebroken. I have never used the penny can or water gun method, but have heard a lot of people talk about how well they work. I have also not yet tried the belly bands, but plan to make a couple and try them. It takes consistency and patience...and a whole lot of love to get through this stage. But if you have all those, it usually will turn out to be a stage and not permanent. A myth some people fall for is that a neutered dog will not mark. This just isn't so, so unless you neuter for other reasons, don't waste your money on this one. The vast majority of dogs that are returned to the breeder or given up to shelters are done so because of housebreaking issues.
Chis are notorious for the "nervous" wetting. I have one 9 y/o that I try everything to let him know how safe he is, ect, but if he senses any little bit that I am upset about anything, he will "squirt" if approached. I don't look at this the same as the marking or just wetting in the house. To me, that is no different from a baby or child crying when startled. I simply try to reassure and don't make them feel bad about it. The marking, of course, is a horse of a different color. That is much harder to overcome that the wetting because they need to go. If a dog wets because it needs to go to the bathroom, we need to adjust our own scheduling because obviously we are not letting him go enough or at the right times. BUT a marking dog will put forth a mighty effort to potty even if not needed! This is hard to break because it is in their psych. It needs to be made clear that it is NOT accepted (rather you use a newspaper, water or penny can) and must be cleaned ASAP. They mark where they sense a prior mark. And it is hard to catch in order to clean. SOOOO, my suggestion is to first determine what type of urination you are dealing with...nervousness, marking, or need. Then, I would try with everything I had in me to rectify the situation, because once it is overcome, you are looking at many years of total loyal blessings. :-) Marsha Subject: [Chihuahuas] fustrated with chi > I am getting frustrated with my 6 and a half month old 8 pound chi. > He is a submissive/excitement pee pee puppy. This is my first time > dealing with this issue. He is crate train and does not pee in his > crate but while out the crate he is the pee puppy. I read a lot of > things about this issue and do whatever I can to not have him pee. He > pee pee on my couch two time, my bed, my mother in law bed, on my > rugs, pee in front of me one time out the blue and etc. I had him for > a month in a half. I am so frustated to which I want to give him back > to the people I got him from. I called the last owner and they told > me that he did not do it with them. I am also to the point in which > he might just need diapers. I take him outside on a schedule but I > guess not is not enough. I get to the point sometimes in which I have > to take him outside every hour. He is so senitive, its hard to say no > to him if he is doing wrong and he pees. It sucks. He is my third > dog in my life and my second puppy that I have raised. He is not > neutered. He love to please me but not in the pee area. Sometimes he > know he did wrong in run to the cage. I just dont know what to do > anymore. > > > > > > > " Lets talk about our wonderful little friends! > Join today! " > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MJOolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> " Lets talk about our wonderful little friends! Join today! " Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

