Hi Gloria! Yes, I was supposed to get Cesar. He was supposed to get on a transport but mill owners left him behind the day he was to be transported. Every weekend I have been ready to drive down there to get him as I am coming from Springfield, Il and he is in Missouri. Then the news came about the puppy dying in transport. I cried off and on all day as I had been looking forward to having him join our little pack. I wish I knew what to do in this situation. I don't want to bring harm to those at home and occasionally I bring homeless dogs in to vet them and find them homes. I also plan on having another dachshund puppy live with us someday.....down the road....maybe in a couple years. I fell in love with Cesar on sight. I am good with mill dogs and knew I could help him recover. I have one mill dachshund with us now and he will be with us until his time comes to pass. He is a wonderful little guy and has made huge progress, although it has been a very slow transformation.
I can't help thinking of little Cesar stuck in the puppy mill. He should have been home a month ago :( Had he met transport he would have already been here and he would have been out of harms way. And I wouldn't have known about the parvo. Knowing this now, I feel (based on vets opinion) I would be irresponsible exposing my (now) 4 at home. Not to mention the fact parvo can stay in the earth for many years after it has been contaminated. What would you do? --- In [email protected], twopenns@... wrote: > > > Did someone on this list adopt one of these puppies. There was a male named > Cesar that I thought was precious and I no longer see his photo. I hope he > found a wonderful forever home. > > Gloria > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@...> > To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 3:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing > > > > > > > > > Hi Tee! > > First, I want to say thank you sooo much for even considering to adopt one of > these babies. The final decision is really up to you. I will tell you of my > experience > with two maltese mill puppies that I rescued many years ago. It was when > parvo first came out, and the vaccine that they had for it was new on the > market and they really didn't have much time to test the vaccine, since the > outbreak was so widespread and hundreds of pups and dogs were dying across > the states. > > At that time I wasn't aware of what a PM is really like and had started my > first pet shop job. It was also the first time that this pet shop had ordered > puppies. We received 12 different breeds. Within the first couple of days the > pups started to look very sick and one by one would die overnight when the > store had closed. The owners were waiting for a reply from the so called > breeder as to what to do with the sick puppies. Parvo can be extremely quick > in killing a pup, before you really see all the symptoms, while others can > languish on for a couple of weeks. The store owners refused to take them to a > vet unless they were guaranteed that the breeder would reimburse them and the > breeder (PM) wouldn't reimburse the store for the dead puppies unless the > store shipped them back at their own expense. So while they were arguing back > and forth within the first two weeks out of the 12 dogs, 2 got sold and I had > no idea what their out come was ,and 8 pups died and two were left, a bischon > and a maltese. The maltese didn't act sick and would follow me around the > store an even sleep under the front counter. So I was falling in love with > him, and wanted to get him out of there. Another week went by and he started > to show symptoms of being sick as did the bichon. > > I asked to buy him and after 3 days of waiting for them to make a decision, > they finally said I could buy him. I had wanted to take him to a vet as soon > as he started looking sick but the owners wouldn't hear of it. So once I paid > for him, I took him directly to the Vet. They did give me a record of his > shots and it seems that the PMs were so paranoid of Parvo that they were > giving the dogs and pups Parvo shots every week, plus combining the live and > killed virus vaccines. They were in fact actually giving these dogs Parvo > with all of these injections!! That is what the Vet had told me and why they > were dying. They didn't know too much at that time as to how to control > Parvo and the shots were an experiment. No one knew, not even the Vets as to > how much vaccine and how often a pup would need it, until all data had been > accumulated and they could study it better. > > I named my puppy Fluffy, and the day that I took him home was also the last > day that I worked for those people. He was very, very sick and just wasting > away, just like the other pups did. The Vet said that there was no way that > he would make it. To this day, I firmly believe that it was my constant > around the clock care that made him pull through. I kept him in a little box > with a heating pad under it, finger fed him him water, broth, baby jar food, > gatorade, nutri-cal, and constantly let him know that he wasn't alone. The > only thing that the Vet had given him on his initial visit was and antibiotic > shot and said he doubted that it would do anything, but was also willing to > try anything and everything. Fluffy pulled through his hell and lived to be > 16 and 1/2 before I had to send him to the bridge with liver cancer. Even at > that age and up until his last week, he never looked or acted like an old > dog. He only needed his teeth cleaned once during his life time, still had > good hearing, and good eye sight, never had arthritis or slowed down on his > walk. But once his pain from the cancer became uncontrollable, I knew it was > time to say good bye. > > 10 months later, after having bought Fluffy, I was working in another Pet > Shop and although there new shipment of pups were all healthy, one wasn't. It > was a very tiny female maltese. She was so lethargic and sick that the truck > driver was going to put her in a plastic bag and attach it to the exhaust of > his truck, rather then see her suffer the long drive back to MO. I paid the > driver $75.00 for her and he called and told the breeders that she died on > the way to the store. The store owner verified that to the PM so that the > truck driver wouldn't get into any trouble. I took her to the Vet and they > put her in the incubator. I stayed there all night with her until 3am and the > Vet said that there was nothing more they could do and wanted to put her to > sleep. The Vet felt that it was a combination of over shots of the Parvo > vaccine and hypoglycemia and all her vitals were so low that she felt it was > only hours before she would pass on anyway. > > Well, I am a fighter and I took her home and Fluffy and I took care of her. I > really think that Fluffy talked to her and let her know that she would be > okay if she would just fight a little harder. Little Gidget lived to be over > 14 years old before her bad heart took her to the bridge. I still miss them > both very much to this day. > > Having said all of that, through the years, I have known many other pups and > dogs who have survived the hell of Parvo and equally know of many that did > not. My personal feeling is that as long as other dogs are vaccinated and are > healthy, then they cannot get Parvo, so what is the big deal of adopting one? > Even if a parvo-survived dog sheds the virus, as long as other dogs are > vaccinated they still cannot get the virus. I can only see another > vaccinated dog getting the virus if the parvo virus has changed its strain, > much like the human flu does. So, I would ask the vet if their has been a > change in the strain of the parvo virus and if so, are your dogs up todate > with the new strain booster? If there hasn't been a change in the strain > that seems to be going around, then why is your Vet so paranoid, if your dogs > are up to date and can't get it anyway? Is the Vet society not telling the > public something about what is really going on with this outbreak? > > You know, if you think about it ,we all take a chance every time we walk our > dogs down the street and they sniff the ground, or we go to a dog park or a > meet up. > As long as my dogs are immunized I am not going to get paranoid and worry > about every parvo outbreak that I hear of. > > We all have to make our own decision which we are comfortable with. I do > thank you for adopting your new baby and not buying one. Would love to see > some pics of her and I apoligize for such a long post. Let us know what you > decide on the PM baby. Believe me, if I were in a better position, I would > have taken one of them myself, so many of them are sooo cute and deserve so > much better then what they have been living in for years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: Tee > Date: 11/15/2011 11:51:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing > > > > I have been waiting for a chi from here and transport wasn't able to move him > yet. In the mean time I found out during a transport, a chi puppy died from > parvo. Apparently they have had an outbreak. I've waited over a month for > him. My vets said NOT to get a dog that has been exposed to parvo as even tho > this dog was not parvo positive, he still could carry and other dogs could > get it from him. All my dogs (3) have had the parvo shots and boosters. But > the vets said not to bring any dog from this mill into my home. So > dissapointed :( > > So Saturday, went to petsmart for dog food and treats. There was an adoption > event and they had a 2 chis there. I brought one home and she is a little > love. I have named her Mika ( meeka ). > > But I still think of this little chi I was supposed to adopt. I am asking for > advice. Should I go against the vets recommendations and take him in anyway? > Does anyone here have any experience with dogs that have been exposed to > parvo? What would you do? > > Thanks all, > > Renee > > --- In [email protected], Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@> wrote: > > > > Just an update on the 100 chis from the PM closing. There are still many > > that need rescue/foster/adoption. This is the last week for the many that > > are still left at the PM. If they are not pulled the owners have threatened > > to put them down, or sending them to a kill shelter, either way, it is not > > much of a reward for spending their whole life in hell as sex machines just > > to make some one rich. > > > > Pleeezzzzz.....Pass the word around, REPOST TO YOUR GROUPS, time is running > > out and so many of them are just So Cute and would be sooo grateful to have > > a furever home. Transportation is available, even for out of state. > > > > CONTACT INFO BELOW: > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > ____________________________________________________ > > Oct 15, 2010 > > > > WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR FUNDS TO COVER THE TRANSPORT COSTS TO GET THESE > > KIDS MOVING, THE CHECK HAS NOT ARRIVED YET BUT IT GIVES US HOPE THAT MORE > > COULD HELP................PLEASE CROSSPOST AND HELP AS MANY AS YOU CAN, NO > > NUMBER SPARED IS TOO FEW!! > > > > Contact for adoption/rescue/foster/transport: > > Ozarkhavenrelocationprogram@ if you can help. Time is of the > > essence. > > > > Transport can always be arranged...these chis deserve help...please...100 of > > them...come on... > > this can be done!!! Please step up and help them! > > > > > > These folks committed to closing after the prop b upgrades were beyond their > > budget but NOW Pa of this Ma and Pa set up is going in for a triple by pass. > > These little ones are at the mercy and ability of one 80 year old sick old > > woman and its not going to be pretty..........please help these little > > ones!! I cannot post the pics cause for some reason on some peoples > > computers the images are black boxes though pics fine for others so we are > > keeping an updated list at: > > > > JUST LOOK AT THESE FACES!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT WANT TO SAVE JUST ONE OF THEM!!. > > ......PLEASE!!!!!..... > > > > > > > > www.ozarkhavenrelocationprogram.weebly.com/missouri-puppy-mill-survivors > > html > > > > > > Please help these guys, we will do all we can to get them on their way...... > > .....crosspost widely and know your participating in what truly is the END.. > > .....finally we saw one to the bitter end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > According to the ASPCA-"Missouri is home to one-third of all commercial dog > > breeding facilities in the U.S.Âas many as the next three largest > > dog-breeding states combinedÂand supplies more than 40 percent of all > > puppies sold in pet stores nationwide. Allowing Missouri's many substandard > > commercial breeders to continue treating dogs as they always have means that > > the flood of unhealthy puppies will continue unabated into pet stores." > > > > > > ~Kristina with a K~ > > Ozark Haven Rescue > > Kristina's Safety Forum > > Supporter of lost dogs everywhere! > > APPROVED ADOPTORS: ASK ABOUT KITTY BUDDIES! OPEN YOUR HOME AND HEART TO A > > HEALTHY AND ALTERED FABULOUS FELINE PREVIOUSLY ON DEATH ROW!!! > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
