I agree. Everytime you bring another animal into your household, whether from a pet shop, owner, or rescue, or even meet one, you are exposing your animals to unknown issues. Nothing is completely safe. If your animals are vaccinated, you have done the best you can. This dog deserves a forever home.
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing I would get a second vet's opinion. That little dog deserves a chance, maybe a person who has no other dogs will give him a home. His photo touched me. Gloria -----Original Message----- From: Tee <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 6:24 am Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing Hi Gloria! Yes, I was supposed to get Cesar. He was supposed to get on a transport but mill owners left him behind the day he was to be transported. Every weekend I have been ready to drive down there to get him as I am coming from Springfield, Il and he is in Missouri. Then the news came about the puppy dying in transport. I cried off and on all day as I had been looking forward to having him join our little pack. I wish I knew what to do in this situation. I don't want to bring harm to those at home and occasionally I bring homeless dogs in to vet them and find them homes. I also plan on having another dachshund puppy live with us someday.....down the road....maybe in a couple years. I fell in love with Cesar on sight. I am good with mill dogs and knew I could help him recover. I have one mill dachshund with us now and he will be with us until his time comes to pass. He is a wonderful little guy and has made huge progress, although it has been a very slow transformation. I can't help thinking of little Cesar stuck in the puppy mill. He should have been home a month ago :( Had he met transport he would have already been here and he would have been out of harms way. And I wouldn't have known about the parvo. Knowing this now, I feel (based on vets opinion) I would be irresponsible exposing my (now) 4 at home. Not to mention the fact parvo can stay in the earth for many years after it has been contaminated. What would you do? --- In [email protected], twopenns@... wrote: > > > Did someone on this list adopt one of these puppies. There was a male named > Cesar that I thought was precious and I no longer see his photo. I hope he > found a wonderful forever home. > > Gloria > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@...> > To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 3:41 pm > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing > > > > > > > > > Hi Tee! > > First, I want to say thank you sooo much for even considering to adopt one of > these babies. The final decision is really up to you. I will tell you of my > experience > with two maltese mill puppies that I rescued many years ago. It was when > parvo first came out, and the vaccine that they had for it was new on the > market and they really didn't have much time to test the vaccine, since the > outbreak was so widespread and hundreds of pups and dogs were dying across > the states. > > At that time I wasn't aware of what a PM is really like and had started my > first pet shop job. It was also the first time that this pet shop had ordered > puppies. We received 12 different breeds. Within the first couple of days the > pups started to look very sick and one by one would die overnight when the > store had closed. The owners were waiting for a reply from the so called > breeder as to what to do with the sick puppies. Parvo can be extremely quick > in killing a pup, before you really see all the symptoms, while others can > languish on for a couple of weeks. The store owners refused to take them to a > vet unless they were guaranteed that the breeder would reimburse them and the > breeder (PM) wouldn't reimburse the store for the dead puppies unless the > store shipped them back at their own expense. So while they were arguing back > and forth within the first two weeks out of the 12 dogs, 2 got sold and I had > no idea what their out come was ,and 8 pups died and two were left, a bischon and a maltese. The maltese didn't act sick and would follow me around the store an even sleep under the front counter. So I was falling in love with him, and wanted to get him out of there. Another week went by and he started to show symptoms of being sick as did the bichon. > > I asked to buy him and after 3 days of waiting for them to make a decision, > they finally said I could buy him. I had wanted to take him to a vet as soon > as he started looking sick but the owners wouldn't hear of it. So once I paid > for him, I took him directly to the Vet. They did give me a record of his > shots and it seems that the PMs were so paranoid of Parvo that they were > giving the dogs and pups Parvo shots every week, plus combining the live and > killed virus vaccines. They were in fact actually giving these dogs Parvo > with all of these injections!! That is what the Vet had told me and why they > were dying. They didn't know too much at that time as to how to control Parvo > and the shots were an experiment. No one knew, not even the Vets as to how > much vaccine and how often a pup would need it, until all data had been > accumulated and they could study it better. > > I named my puppy Fluffy, and the day that I took him home was also the last > day that I worked for those people. He was very, very sick and just wasting > away, just like the other pups did. The Vet said that there was no way that > he would make it. To this day, I firmly believe that it was my constant > around the clock care that made him pull through. I kept him in a little box > with a heating pad under it, finger fed him him water, broth, baby jar food, > gatorade, nutri-cal, and constantly let him know that he wasn't alone. The > only thing that the Vet had given him on his initial visit was and antibiotic > shot and said he doubted that it would do anything, but was also willing to > try anything and everything. Fluffy pulled through his hell and lived to be > 16 and 1/2 before I had to send him to the bridge with liver cancer. Even at > that age and up until his last week, he never looked or acted like an old > dog. He only needed his teeth cleaned once during his life time, still had good hearing, and good eye sight, never had arthritis or slowed down on his walk. But once his pain from the cancer became uncontrollable, I knew it was time to say good bye. > > 10 months later, after having bought Fluffy, I was working in another Pet > Shop and although there new shipment of pups were all healthy, one wasn't. It > was a very tiny female maltese. She was so lethargic and sick that the truck > driver was going to put her in a plastic bag and attach it to the exhaust of > his truck, rather then see her suffer the long drive back to MO. I paid the > driver $75.00 for her and he called and told the breeders that she died on > the way to the store. The store owner verified that to the PM so that the > truck driver wouldn't get into any trouble. I took her to the Vet and they > put her in the incubator. I stayed there all night with her until 3am and the > Vet said that there was nothing more they could do and wanted to put her to > sleep. The Vet felt that it was a combination of over shots of the Parvo > vaccine and hypoglycemia and all her vitals were so low that she felt it was > only hours before she would pass on anyway. > > Well, I am a fighter and I took her home and Fluffy and I took care of her. I > really think that Fluffy talked to her and let her know that she would be > okay if she would just fight a little harder. Little Gidget lived to be over > 14 years old before her bad heart took her to the bridge. I still miss them > both very much to this day. > > Having said all of that, through the years, I have known many other pups and > dogs who have survived the hell of Parvo and equally know of many that did > not. My personal feeling is that as long as other dogs are vaccinated and are > healthy, then they cannot get Parvo, so what is the big deal of adopting one? > Even if a parvo-survived dog sheds the virus, as long as other dogs are > vaccinated they still cannot get the virus. I can only see another vaccinated > dog getting the virus if the parvo virus has changed its strain, much like > the human flu does. So, I would ask the vet if their has been a change in the > strain of the parvo virus and if so, are your dogs up todate with the new > strain booster? If there hasn't been a change in the strain that seems to be > going around, then why is your Vet so paranoid, if your dogs are up to date > and can't get it anyway? Is the Vet society not telling the public something > about what is really going on with this outbreak? > > You know, if you think about it ,we all take a chance every time we walk our > dogs down the street and they sniff the ground, or we go to a dog park or a > meet up. > As long as my dogs are immunized I am not going to get paranoid and worry > about every parvo outbreak that I hear of. > > We all have to make our own decision which we are comfortable with. I do > thank you for adopting your new baby and not buying one. Would love to see > some pics of her and I apoligize for such a long post. Let us know what you > decide on the PM baby. Believe me, if I were in a better position, I would > have taken one of them myself, so many of them are sooo cute and deserve so > much better then what they have been living in for years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: Tee > Date: 11/15/2011 11:51:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Update on 100 chis MO/PM closing > > > > I have been waiting for a chi from here and transport wasn't able to move him > yet. In the mean time I found out during a transport, a chi puppy died from > parvo. Apparently they have had an outbreak. I've waited over a month for > him. My vets said NOT to get a dog that has been exposed to parvo as even tho > this dog was not parvo positive, he still could carry and other dogs could > get it from him. All my dogs (3) have had the parvo shots and boosters. But > the vets said not to bring any dog from this mill into my home. So > dissapointed :( > > So Saturday, went to petsmart for dog food and treats. There was an adoption > event and they had a 2 chis there. I brought one home and she is a little > love. I have named her Mika ( meeka ). > > But I still think of this little chi I was supposed to adopt. I am asking for > advice. Should I go against the vets recommendations and take him in anyway? > Does anyone here have any experience with dogs that have been exposed to > parvo? What would you do? > > Thanks all, > > Renee > > --- In [email protected], Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@> wrote: > > > > Just an update on the 100 chis from the PM closing. There are still many > > that need rescue/foster/adoption. This is the last week for the many that > > are still left at the PM. If they are not pulled the owners have threatened > > to put them down, or sending them to a kill shelter, either way, it is not > > much of a reward for spending their whole life in hell as sex machines just > > to make some one rich. > > > > Pleeezzzzz.....Pass the word around, REPOST TO YOUR GROUPS, time is running > > out and so many of them are just So Cute and would be sooo grateful to have > > a furever home. Transportation is available, even for out of state. > > > > CONTACT INFO BELOW: > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > ____________________________________________________ > > Oct 15, 2010 > > > > WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR FUNDS TO COVER THE TRANSPORT COSTS TO GET THESE > > KIDS MOVING, THE CHECK HAS NOT ARRIVED YET BUT IT GIVES US HOPE THAT MORE > > COULD HELP................PLEASE CROSSPOST AND HELP AS MANY AS YOU CAN, NO > > NUMBER SPARED IS TOO FEW!! > > > > Contact for adoption/rescue/foster/transport: > > Ozarkhavenrelocationprogram@ if you can help. Time is of the > > essence. > > > > Transport can always be arranged...these chis deserve help...please...100 of > > them...come on... > > this can be done!!! Please step up and help them! > > > > > > These folks committed to closing after the prop b upgrades were beyond their > > budget but NOW Pa of this Ma and Pa set up is going in for a triple by pass. > > These little ones are at the mercy and ability of one 80 year old sick old > > woman and its not going to be pretty..........please help these little > > ones!! I cannot post the pics cause for some reason on some peoples > > computers the images are black boxes though pics fine for others so we are > > keeping an updated list at: > > > > JUST LOOK AT THESE FACES!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT WANT TO SAVE JUST ONE OF THEM!!. > > ......PLEASE!!!!!..... > > > > > > > > www.ozarkhavenrelocationprogram.weebly.com/missouri-puppy-mill-survivors > > html > > > > > > Please help these guys, we will do all we can to get them on their way...... > > .....crosspost widely and know your participating in what truly is the END.. > > .....finally we saw one to the bitter end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > According to the ASPCA-"Missouri is home to one-third of all commercial dog > > breeding facilities in the U.S.Âas many as the next three largest > > dog-breeding states combinedÂand supplies more than 40 percent of all > > puppies sold in pet stores nationwide. Allowing Missouri's many substandard > > commercial breeders to continue treating dogs as they always have means that > > the flood of unhealthy puppies will continue unabated into pet stores." > > > > > > ~Kristina with a K~ > > Ozark Haven Rescue > > Kristina's Safety Forum > > Supporter of lost dogs everywhere! > > APPROVED ADOPTORS: ASK ABOUT KITTY BUDDIES! OPEN YOUR HOME AND HEART TO A > > HEALTHY AND ALTERED FABULOUS FELINE PREVIOUSLY ON DEATH ROW!!! > > >
