Judy - awww don't think about that now..is little Jewell healthy otherwise ?
Lynda "I wish my book of life was written in pencil … There are a few pages I would like to erase" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Moon" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 4:28:57 PM Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behavior Sometimes the abuse never is forgotten even by dogs. Jewell is now 13 and has been with me 11 years. If she is waked suddenly she is in full blown fight mode. Now that she is slowly going deaf, I have to be very careful. I may soon have to make a decision that I don’t really want to make. Judy Moon, a prayer warrior for Christ "May grace and spiritual peace be yours from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ." Jewell, Mary, Martha, Dakota, Becky, Nicky, Gabby, Joy (dogs) Dark Angel, Peter, Paul, Leah, Sarah, Tag, Ruth, Esther (cats) Libby, the parrot From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Croft Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 2:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behavior Yes…sadly sometimes the effects of abusive homes cannot really be solved easily. With humans there is counseling, but that is hard to solve also…the memories are there and sometimes no matter how much you forgive, you just cannot forget. Bart is good and happy now…he is glad that you gave him that year and 10 days. From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Judy Moon Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behavior Bart did learn to love me, but when surprised he still bit. I did not blame him and only scolded him. I loved him and spoiled him every day of his year and 10 days with me. Judy Moon, a prayer warrior for Christ "May grace and spiritual peace be yours from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ." Jewell, Mary, Martha, Dakota, Becky, Nicky, Gabby, Joy (dogs) Dark Angel, Peter, Paul, Leah, Sarah, Tag, Ruth, Esther (cats) Libby, the parrot From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Joan Croft Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot Yes. They are so small and some have had such a hard life before you take them in. The issue had to be so much worse for Bart because if he was awake he couldn’t even see you. That must have been very stressful for him. Did he ever stop growling or biting? My Mom used to say that before you get married make sure that you like the other person the way that they are because after marriage it is not going to change. Don’t plan on change, but if it happens – for the good – then you are lucky. When you get a dog that has been abused or maybe just discarded because it was blind (so very sad), you have those issues that don’t leave the dog, but if you train it right and with love then they may change. Like I posted about my dog when I was a kid…Skipper…oh my! He was a little terror. We didn’t let him run away because he bit us, but he most likely had issues because he was passed around so much and maybe we didn’t realize that there was something to be done that could change him. My Mom had five kids, who at that time were between 11 and 17. She made good dinners every day, cleaned the house, did the endless laundry of a family of six, and I must say where in her day did she have time to sit down and do training exercises with Skipper? Probably when we came home he was just trying to feel safe and he had no loyalty to any one person…he was like a roulette wheel…spin it and see who Skipper will be nice to today! LOL From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Judy Moon Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 5:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot Joan, You gave a perfect analogy. However, I’ll take all the little dogs and bring them home to me. I don’t mind a growl or snap or nip from a small dog. My blind Bart bit me several times when I touched him and had not spoken to him……MY FAULT. I only got to have him for one year and 10 days. I still miss the bossy loving little guy…all 7 lbs of him. Judy Moon, a prayer warrior for Christ "May grace and spiritual peace be yours from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ." Jewell, Mary, Martha, Dakota, Becky, Nicky, Gabby, Joy (dogs) Dark Angel, Peter, Paul, Leah, Sarah, Tag, Ruth, Esther (cats) Libby, the parrot From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Joan Croft Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot I just want to add something from my post of yesterday: Yes, Desi growled when I moved him. When he was tiny, he didn’t sleep as sound as he does now. I rarely have to move him any more, but when I do he does that growling sound when he is asleep. That is why I figured out that it was more like a ‘don’t disturb me’ that you get out of a human if you push them or move them when they are sleeping. With Dolly…she hasn’t done the snapping thing except for once or twice, but then she looks at me like she knows she was bad and then gives me some kisses. You really shouldn’t expect to move them – or come up to them with your face right there – when they are asleep. What would you do if you were sleeping and sensed someone there and opened your eyes and there you saw someone’ head and face? You would probably jump through the ceiling. I believe that the growling and a little snapping is more related to you disturbing them when they are sleeping. It doesn’t matter if the puppy is 5 weeks old or 5 years old. Just think how you would really like it if every time that you fell asleep you were moved and looked at like in a microscope. I don’t have human kids, but I bet that if you moved your baby, toddler, or even a small child when they are sleeping, you would get some sort of response…most likely they would start to cry uncontrollably. Just think of the circumstances. If your dog growls at you every time that you touch him; or she is a bit snappish all of the time…then that is something that needs to be corrected…maybe by a water spray bottle; maybe by turning them on their back and holding them down gently telling them that whatever it was is not acceptable and you don’t want them to do it again. You are all talking about how many dogs are in shelters…what if most are there because the owners didn’t like them growling or snapping when they get woke up and actually scared by a big head in front of them. That is not a reason to discipline…you wake them, and then you don’t think that they are confused because they were sleeping and you disturbed them. You will learn perhaps how to move them to make them not react…and someone said to do it when you have already started talking to them. I was just doing it subconsciously, but last night Dolly turned and she had both of her back legs digging into my stomach like they were stuck inside there. I said her name first, and then told her that I have to move her a little. She is fine with that, and like I said, Desi doesn’t exactly go it so much anymore, and I think that if I did have to move him, I probably do talk to him to tell him what I am doing. From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of diana roller Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot Just because she doesnt like people in her face does not mean that she needs to be disciplined. Dogs have an instinct as to what people they can trust. Also, has anyone taken the time with her to socialize her ~ gently and over a period of time, NOT JUST A SNAP ON THE NOSE?????? It sounds like you are being way too impatiant with her as well as expecting too much too soon. Dogs are like kids, each personality is different. Maybe she just needs a little extra loving and gentle care. I will take her off your hands if you like. I hate to see you both so upset. Sincerely, Diana From: sheila < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot Yeah, I think you are over reacting. Itsy will do this because she does not like being startled or bothered when she is sleeping. I always make it a point to say her name name and here girl, come on girl time to go out. She is fine then. Don't get your feelings hurt, it is not personal, it is a reaction. I guess my point is that not all things fit all dogs. Sounds to me like she just does not want to be bothered while she is resting. Not all dogs will always be alike. Ask yourself how she is otherwise? Is this the only time she does that? Sheila -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot Hi Everyone, I'm noticing some behavior in Charlotte (3 mos chi), that I have never experienced and do not like. My other 2 dogs are sweet, well behaved, loving, even tempered loves. I've worked with them & they are such wonderful dogs-well trained & very respectable. (altho they've trained me well too) LOL I've noticed when I lean over to kiss Charlotte when she's sleeping she snaps @ my face. The first time she did this I was shocked! Did it again and couldn't believe it-my feelings were hurt. Then I went to move her & she growled. I gave her a 'no' command each time but she doesn't even react to the command. I tapped her nose once & said 'no', but she just curled up & when back to sleep. I will not accept this behavior so I make a point of 'bothering' her sometimes when she's sleeping so we can work on this. Anybody have any other ideas? Lynda ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4760 - Release Date: 01/22/12 No virus found in this message. 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