I am not sure. I haven't tried that. Do you feed them cold from can, or heated
up?
Becky & the girls
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On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Susanne Defoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Becky,
>
> Would she eat No salt added canned green beans or raw/low sodium canned
> carrots for a treat instead? Our boys love them!
> Sue
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Joan, thanks for all the info.
> Gracie is now 6 years old. She started to put on weight about a year after
> she was spayed. I really feel like she is not over eating, but rather, not
> getting enough excercise.
> In fact today, I had her in the pool for some stress free joint excercise.
> She weighs 12 pounds right now. She used to be at a steady 8.
> I am going to try extra hard to be sure she is excercising every day. I hope
> this will make a difference. My daughter is a vet tech, she brought me a bag
> of Canadai for weight loss.
> But one point you made was the one about treats. Gracie likes her evening
> treats. Guess I need to stop that.
>
> Becky & the girls
>
> Sent from Becky's iPhone
>
> On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> From: Joan Croft [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:40 PM
>> To: '[email protected]'
>> Subject: Becky & Gracie
>>
>> Hi Becky.
>>
>> How old is Gracie, and how much does she weigh?
>> Can you post a picture to see just how fat she is?
>>
>> I have to say I really felt that I was the worst Chi-momma in the world.
>> First I should have recognized that he was the fattest little puppy that I
>> had ever seen. He looked like a little bear cub.
>>
>> I think at 8 weeks he was 3 lbs and 11 oz. I know, some of you have full
>> grown chis that are that size or less. Before my vet weighed him, when he
>> just picked him up for the first time, he said ‘Oh, he’s a hefty one!’ I
>> guess that is polite for ‘who the heck has been over feeding this puppy!’
>> And…in only 8 weeks of his life!
>>
>> Well, he told me to cut back the amount of the then ‘Royal Canin Baby Dog’
>> and I did, I looked at the amount on the bag and I was feeding less than it
>> said to. (However, right now, Dolly & Desi get about half of what the RC
>> Chihuahua bag says that they should get. I think it both increases their
>> sales, but also promotes little chubs)
>>
>> At that time, Desi had to go every week or so for his boosters, and he was
>> gaining…but he was a puppy so we couldn’t starve him…he had bones and
>> muscles and things that needed to be nourished and grow. I think at
>> 12-weeks was when he was put on RC Small Breed Puppy…I guess less fat maybe?
>> Well, I fed him about half…and this puppy was hungry because he had been
>> free-fed at the breeder and was accustomed to eating all day long. He would
>> come and cry and cry and then when I would feed him he would be by his bowl
>> before I could put the food in. He would wake me up in the morning with
>> many, many kisses at 5 am…he was hungry – and why was my sleep more
>> important? He was still eating three times a day then, so it was easier to
>> cut back when it had to be done over three feedings.
>>
>> Right before he was 4 months old, the vet diagnosed a dangerous testicular
>> problem and so he had to be neutered right away. Well…it took about four or
>> five cuts in his little round belly to untangle and free the testicle that
>> was not attached to anything. But, I think that during that surgery, the
>> vet saw the total thickness of that fat layer he was carrying around. So
>> before he was four months old, he was on RC Adult Chihuahua food. I worked
>> with the vet in adjusting what he was getting.
>>
>> The good thing about my vet – and maybe you can get your vet to do a deal
>> like this with you – is that he told me that I could bring him in any time
>> FOR FREE, and he would weigh him, feel him to see if his ribs were really in
>> there, and then let me know if we should cut back more or maybe even give
>> him a little more. So if I had to cut his food back to half – I would start
>> cutting it a little bit each meal over maybe a week…they really don’t notice
>> that they are missing 10 pieces (RC Chihuahua – very tiny) in each feeding.
>>
>> Remember that I did all this under the guidance of the vet…because he was a
>> puppy. There were a few times that the vet would tell me to give him a
>> little more, and I could see he was growing up and out – and then a little
>> too round.
>>
>> I think he was maybe 11 months old when the vet said that he was a good
>> healthy weight and his bones and everything could be felt and not sticking
>> out. So, he said to give him a little more…but I saw him gaining and just
>> cut back a little more.
>>
>> With both of mine wanting to be inseparable, Desi was always with if I had
>> to take Dolly for something, so he had some extra feels in between his
>> visits. The thing is that Desi loves Dr Bullard...maybe because he made him
>> a lean playin’ machine.
>>
>> At about 14 months, Desi was pretty much lean and staying very steady in his
>> weight. Oh…I didn’t think that day would ever come. And then right before
>> he was two, I noticed that he had gotten a bit wider around his rear…he had
>> been very narrow and I even asked the groups if males have smaller builds
>> than the females (Dolly is thin, but her rear bone structure is wider.)
>>
>> I noticed this about three months after I had surgery and thought maybe I
>> just didn’t remember how narrow he had been. I took him to Dr Bullard…Desi
>> had gained weight, but he was still just as lean. The vet and I think that
>> because he was taken off of puppy food so early, that part of his bone
>> development was delayed. He has been about the same size – with no growth
>> spurts for almost a year, so I am hoping that this is it.
>>
>> As hard as it is:
>>
>> No treats. If you have to give her a treat in order to train her to go
>> potty outside…the Charlee Bear treats are very low calorie. Chicken Liver
>> and Cranberry is their favorite
>> http://www.petco.com/product/117215/Charlee-Bear-Dog-Treats-with-Turkey-Live
>> r-And-Cranberries.aspx?CoreCat=OnSiteSearch
>>
>> Look for the tiniest treats, and you can even break the tiniest. I had some
>> that were tiny little star treats
>> http://www.petco.com/product/114218/Wet-Noses-Little-Stars-Organic-Dog-Train
>> ing-Treats.aspx
>>
>> If you can keep the treat to just that one to train for potty training…that
>> is good. Once he learned to go potty, I made him come further and further
>> inside the house before I gave him the treat. I would then take one and
>> throw it a little distance so he had to run into the house to get it. After
>> a few days of that, it was just praise…no treat.
>>
>> Before I had Desi, Dolly wanted treats all day and so I made it that the
>> only time she got a treat was when she finished a bowl of her food (she is
>> a grazer.) So I used to get all excited and then give her the treat. When
>> Dolly finishes her food, she will bark to let me know, and so I still give
>> her the treat, but at the same time, Desi gets a very tiny treat…and
>> sometimes just one little RC kibble.
>>
>> Your dogs (if you have more than one) don’t really care if they all get the
>> same treat, just that they get one.
>>
>> Desi then learned to almost inhale his food, and then he would sit on the
>> bed and look like he was chewing for 20 minutes. That was part of his
>> ‘breeder free-feeding’ syndrome. The vet told me that he had the food in
>> his esophagus and doing the chewing motions was pushing it a little at a
>> time down his throat. So then, I had to buy all kinds of treat dispensing
>> toys to feed him his kibble. We have been doing this for about a year and a
>> half. I had to start one kibble at a time and then if he didn’t chew, he
>> had to wait for his next piece. (Not easy for that little guy that LOVES
>> food!)
>>
>> It took about three months, twice a day, to get him to chew his
>> food, then we started the treat dispensing toys and I would stand over him
>> and watch. If he started to not chew his food, I would tell him that I
>> wanted to hear the crunch…and then he would chew.
>>
>> I am always looking for new toys, but he is outsmarting me…as the
>> vet predicted, so I have just figured out putting a treat which is too big
>> to come out in the toy along with his kibble, slows down the number of
>> kibble that he can eat in a set amount of time…and then his food will not
>> get all clogged up in his throat.
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Becky
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:23 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>
>> I am interested in hearing from you, what diet you used to get him to lose
>> weight. My little Gracie could lose a little weight. Any advice?
>>
>> Becky & the girls
>>
>> Sent from Becky's iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I will attest – having a male Chihuahua born of the same bitch and sire as
>> many other litters before him. Bitch and Sire 4 ½ and 5 ½ lbs…look like
>> most Chihuahuas today. I got Desi at 8 weeks old, very sweet and loving
>> little guy, but at 14 weeks he was a good inch taller than his littermate
>> brother when they were just standing normally. Today, Desi is almost 9 lbs
>> and very lean. He has the stature and some of the features of the original
>> Chihuahuas when they were up to 20 lbs. He has a much longer snout and he
>> was VERY OBESE when I got him…on a diet until he was 11 months old, and now
>> he is actually losing a little more weight and has very long back legs, a
>> very long narrow body, and his front legs are a bit shorter and stouter than
>> his back. He got some genes that had to have been recessive. I am glad
>> that I never have seen any aggressive traits in either of mine, but Desi is
>> living proof that genes from many generations before get thrown into the mix
>> every once in a while.
>>
>>
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>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Pam Dean
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:49 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>
>>
>> Amen. Some of us are working hard to achieve that end. Hope it comes ,in
>> my lifetime.
>>
>>
>> From: jules <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:49 PM
>> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>
>>
>> A friend was sold a pup out of the back of a car here in the UK. She thought
>> it was a Patterdale. She also bought a female Patterdale from a breeder.
>> Very early on, the male dog was extremely aggressive towards other animals
>> and humans.
>> She took him to her vet, and the vet thought he was a Pitbull terrier.
>> My friend employed dog trainers to no avail. This dog made an unprovoked
>> attack on the Patterdale bitch causing severe damage to ligaments.
>> My friend had to have the dog destroyed. He had also attacked her family.
>> Aggression is hereditary. It gets passed on.
>> Fighting dogs are bred
>> Fortunately here in the UK pitbull terriers are banned. There have been too
>> many incidences af extreme aggression.
>>
>> --- In [email protected], Becky <stewartgang@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't believe there is any scientific proof that all Pitbull dogs are
>> aggressive. Why not focus your energies on doing something with people who
>> are unfit dog owners of all breeds? There would most likely be alot less
>> situations that happen, if there were educated, appropriate , accountable
>> and responsible owners.
>> >
>> > Becky & the girls
>> >
>> > Sent from Becky's iPhone
>> >
>> > On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Pam Dean muffinsbabies@... wrote:
>> >
>> > > Do you really believe that only "bad people" have pitts that attack?
>> That is so not true and I know that from personal experience. All of the
>> instances I or my friends have been involved in the owners were the
>> "responsible" ones. The ones that thought the sun rose and set in this
>> gentle giant. The ones that insisted their dog was different and would never
>> hurt an animal or human..they have been raised different. Well guess
>> what..their so called gentle giant killed just as quickly as any other pitt.
>> > >
>> > > From: stewartgang stewartgang@...
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:11 PM
>> > > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > How unfortunate for our four legged fur friends. More and more often, we
>> see on the daily news, a dog that has been badly neglected or abused. And,
>> we also hear of dogs that have attacked someone. The bottom line here is,
>> all of these dogs have fallen victim to being in the hands of BAD people. I
>> will always feel sorrow for the ones who are hurt by the hands of people,
>> but I also feel sorrow for those that will be eauthanized because of an
>> attack which could have prevented if they only had been in the hands of a
>> GOOD and responsible owner.
>> > > Dogs come into this world as babies, no matter what the breed, and
>> puppies love and trust everyone. It is what they experience through their
>> lives that develop their character as adult dogs. I believe that there is a
>> lot to be said about both animals and children on how they are raised and
>> the outcome.
>> > > I really don't think that there are bad dogs, but I sure do believe
>> there are alot of bad people. Not everyone out there are like the ones on
>> this forum, who love and care about their dogs, how unfortunate for those
>> dogs who lie in those peoples's hands.
>> > >
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