I am going to offer this to Gracie today. Wish me luck! She looks forward to
her treats. Where do you buy the Star treats that are mentioned?
Becky & the girls
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On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Susanne Defoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> They will eat them however they can get them. Just watch for low sodium or
> cook your own! One of our boys will eat them raw but the other wants them
> cooked. That would make a good snack! Some vets advocate adding green beans
> to their food if they still seem hungry after they are done eating but others
> do not. I just give them as snacks/treats. I did get the little star treats
> too and the boys love those too. One of our boys stays lanky and lean but
> the other one bulks up quickly and I almost have to count his kibbles. He
> gets a scant teaspoon of wet and scant teaspoon of dry twice a day in
> addition to his treats.
>
> Sue
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure. I haven't tried that. Do you feed them cold from can, or
> heated up?
>
> Becky & the girls
>
> Sent from Becky's iPhone
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Susanne Defoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Becky,
>>
>> Would she eat No salt added canned green beans or raw/low sodium canned
>> carrots for a treat instead? Our boys love them!
>> Sue
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Becky <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joan, thanks for all the info.
>> Gracie is now 6 years old. She started to put on weight about a year after
>> she was spayed. I really feel like she is not over eating, but rather, not
>> getting enough excercise.
>> In fact today, I had her in the pool for some stress free joint excercise.
>> She weighs 12 pounds right now. She used to be at a steady 8.
>> I am going to try extra hard to be sure she is excercising every day. I
>> hope this will make a difference. My daughter is a vet tech, she brought me
>> a bag of Canadai for weight loss.
>> But one point you made was the one about treats. Gracie likes her evening
>> treats. Guess I need to stop that.
>>
>> Becky & the girls
>>
>> Sent from Becky's iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> From: Joan Croft [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:40 PM
>>> To: '[email protected]'
>>> Subject: Becky & Gracie
>>>
>>> Hi Becky.
>>>
>>> How old is Gracie, and how much does she weigh?
>>> Can you post a picture to see just how fat she is?
>>>
>>> I have to say I really felt that I was the worst Chi-momma in the world.
>>> First I should have recognized that he was the fattest little puppy that I
>>> had ever seen. He looked like a little bear cub.
>>>
>>> I think at 8 weeks he was 3 lbs and 11 oz. I know, some of you have full
>>> grown chis that are that size or less. Before my vet weighed him, when he
>>> just picked him up for the first time, he said ‘Oh, he’s a hefty one!’ I
>>> guess that is polite for ‘who the heck has been over feeding this puppy!’
>>> And…in only 8 weeks of his life!
>>>
>>> Well, he told me to cut back the amount of the then ‘Royal Canin Baby Dog’
>>> and I did, I looked at the amount on the bag and I was feeding less than it
>>> said to. (However, right now, Dolly & Desi get about half of what the RC
>>> Chihuahua bag says that they should get. I think it both increases their
>>> sales, but also promotes little chubs)
>>>
>>> At that time, Desi had to go every week or so for his boosters, and he was
>>> gaining…but he was a puppy so we couldn’t starve him…he had bones and
>>> muscles and things that needed to be nourished and grow. I think at
>>> 12-weeks was when he was put on RC Small Breed Puppy…I guess less fat maybe?
>>> Well, I fed him about half…and this puppy was hungry because he had been
>>> free-fed at the breeder and was accustomed to eating all day long. He would
>>> come and cry and cry and then when I would feed him he would be by his bowl
>>> before I could put the food in. He would wake me up in the morning with
>>> many, many kisses at 5 am…he was hungry – and why was my sleep more
>>> important? He was still eating three times a day then, so it was easier to
>>> cut back when it had to be done over three feedings.
>>>
>>> Right before he was 4 months old, the vet diagnosed a dangerous testicular
>>> problem and so he had to be neutered right away. Well…it took about four or
>>> five cuts in his little round belly to untangle and free the testicle that
>>> was not attached to anything. But, I think that during that surgery, the
>>> vet saw the total thickness of that fat layer he was carrying around. So
>>> before he was four months old, he was on RC Adult Chihuahua food. I worked
>>> with the vet in adjusting what he was getting.
>>>
>>> The good thing about my vet – and maybe you can get your vet to do a deal
>>> like this with you – is that he told me that I could bring him in any time
>>> FOR FREE, and he would weigh him, feel him to see if his ribs were really in
>>> there, and then let me know if we should cut back more or maybe even give
>>> him a little more. So if I had to cut his food back to half – I would start
>>> cutting it a little bit each meal over maybe a week…they really don’t notice
>>> that they are missing 10 pieces (RC Chihuahua – very tiny) in each feeding.
>>>
>>> Remember that I did all this under the guidance of the vet…because he was a
>>> puppy. There were a few times that the vet would tell me to give him a
>>> little more, and I could see he was growing up and out – and then a little
>>> too round.
>>>
>>> I think he was maybe 11 months old when the vet said that he was a good
>>> healthy weight and his bones and everything could be felt and not sticking
>>> out. So, he said to give him a little more…but I saw him gaining and just
>>> cut back a little more.
>>>
>>> With both of mine wanting to be inseparable, Desi was always with if I had
>>> to take Dolly for something, so he had some extra feels in between his
>>> visits. The thing is that Desi loves Dr Bullard...maybe because he made him
>>> a lean playin’ machine.
>>>
>>> At about 14 months, Desi was pretty much lean and staying very steady in his
>>> weight. Oh…I didn’t think that day would ever come. And then right before
>>> he was two, I noticed that he had gotten a bit wider around his rear…he had
>>> been very narrow and I even asked the groups if males have smaller builds
>>> than the females (Dolly is thin, but her rear bone structure is wider.)
>>>
>>> I noticed this about three months after I had surgery and thought maybe I
>>> just didn’t remember how narrow he had been. I took him to Dr Bullard…Desi
>>> had gained weight, but he was still just as lean. The vet and I think that
>>> because he was taken off of puppy food so early, that part of his bone
>>> development was delayed. He has been about the same size – with no growth
>>> spurts for almost a year, so I am hoping that this is it.
>>>
>>> As hard as it is:
>>>
>>> No treats. If you have to give her a treat in order to train her to go
>>> potty outside…the Charlee Bear treats are very low calorie. Chicken Liver
>>> and Cranberry is their favorite
>>> http://www.petco.com/product/117215/Charlee-Bear-Dog-Treats-with-Turkey-Live
>>> r-And-Cranberries.aspx?CoreCat=OnSiteSearch
>>>
>>> Look for the tiniest treats, and you can even break the tiniest. I had some
>>> that were tiny little star treats
>>> http://www.petco.com/product/114218/Wet-Noses-Little-Stars-Organic-Dog-Train
>>> ing-Treats.aspx
>>>
>>> If you can keep the treat to just that one to train for potty training…that
>>> is good. Once he learned to go potty, I made him come further and further
>>> inside the house before I gave him the treat. I would then take one and
>>> throw it a little distance so he had to run into the house to get it. After
>>> a few days of that, it was just praise…no treat.
>>>
>>> Before I had Desi, Dolly wanted treats all day and so I made it that the
>>> only time she got a treat was when she finished a bowl of her food (she is
>>> a grazer.) So I used to get all excited and then give her the treat. When
>>> Dolly finishes her food, she will bark to let me know, and so I still give
>>> her the treat, but at the same time, Desi gets a very tiny treat…and
>>> sometimes just one little RC kibble.
>>>
>>> Your dogs (if you have more than one) don’t really care if they all get the
>>> same treat, just that they get one.
>>>
>>> Desi then learned to almost inhale his food, and then he would sit on the
>>> bed and look like he was chewing for 20 minutes. That was part of his
>>> ‘breeder free-feeding’ syndrome. The vet told me that he had the food in
>>> his esophagus and doing the chewing motions was pushing it a little at a
>>> time down his throat. So then, I had to buy all kinds of treat dispensing
>>> toys to feed him his kibble. We have been doing this for about a year and a
>>> half. I had to start one kibble at a time and then if he didn’t chew, he
>>> had to wait for his next piece. (Not easy for that little guy that LOVES
>>> food!)
>>>
>>> It took about three months, twice a day, to get him to chew his
>>> food, then we started the treat dispensing toys and I would stand over him
>>> and watch. If he started to not chew his food, I would tell him that I
>>> wanted to hear the crunch…and then he would chew.
>>>
>>> I am always looking for new toys, but he is outsmarting me…as the
>>> vet predicted, so I have just figured out putting a treat which is too big
>>> to come out in the toy along with his kibble, slows down the number of
>>> kibble that he can eat in a set amount of time…and then his food will not
>>> get all clogged up in his throat.
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Becky
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:23 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>>
>>> I am interested in hearing from you, what diet you used to get him to lose
>>> weight. My little Gracie could lose a little weight. Any advice?
>>>
>>> Becky & the girls
>>>
>>> Sent from Becky's iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will attest – having a male Chihuahua born of the same bitch and sire as
>>> many other litters before him. Bitch and Sire 4 ½ and 5 ½ lbs…look like
>>> most Chihuahuas today. I got Desi at 8 weeks old, very sweet and loving
>>> little guy, but at 14 weeks he was a good inch taller than his littermate
>>> brother when they were just standing normally. Today, Desi is almost 9 lbs
>>> and very lean. He has the stature and some of the features of the original
>>> Chihuahuas when they were up to 20 lbs. He has a much longer snout and he
>>> was VERY OBESE when I got him…on a diet until he was 11 months old, and now
>>> he is actually losing a little more weight and has very long back legs, a
>>> very long narrow body, and his front legs are a bit shorter and stouter than
>>> his back. He got some genes that had to have been recessive. I am glad
>>> that I never have seen any aggressive traits in either of mine, but Desi is
>>> living proof that genes from many generations before get thrown into the mix
>>> every once in a while.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Pam Dean
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:49 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>>
>>>
>>> Amen. Some of us are working hard to achieve that end. Hope it comes ,in
>>> my lifetime.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: jules <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:49 PM
>>> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>>
>>>
>>> A friend was sold a pup out of the back of a car here in the UK. She thought
>>> it was a Patterdale. She also bought a female Patterdale from a breeder.
>>> Very early on, the male dog was extremely aggressive towards other animals
>>> and humans.
>>> She took him to her vet, and the vet thought he was a Pitbull terrier.
>>> My friend employed dog trainers to no avail. This dog made an unprovoked
>>> attack on the Patterdale bitch causing severe damage to ligaments.
>>> My friend had to have the dog destroyed. He had also attacked her family.
>>> Aggression is hereditary. It gets passed on.
>>> Fighting dogs are bred
>>> Fortunately here in the UK pitbull terriers are banned. There have been too
>>> many incidences af extreme aggression.
>>>
>>> --- In [email protected], Becky <stewartgang@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I don't believe there is any scientific proof that all Pitbull dogs are
>>> aggressive. Why not focus your energies on doing something with people who
>>> are unfit dog owners of all breeds? There would most likely be alot less
>>> situations that happen, if there were educated, appropriate , accountable
>>> and responsible owners.
>>> >
>>> > Becky & the girls
>>> >
>>> > Sent from Becky's iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Pam Dean muffinsbabies@... wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Do you really believe that only "bad people" have pitts that attack?
>>> That is so not true and I know that from personal experience. All of the
>>> instances I or my friends have been involved in the owners were the
>>> "responsible" ones. The ones that thought the sun rose and set in this
>>> gentle giant. The ones that insisted their dog was different and would never
>>> hurt an animal or human..they have been raised different. Well guess
>>> what..their so called gentle giant killed just as quickly as any other pitt.
>>> > >
>>> > > From: stewartgang stewartgang@...
>>> > > To: [email protected]
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:11 PM
>>> > > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Dogs that fall into hands of BAD people
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > How unfortunate for our four legged fur friends. More and more often, we
>>> see on the daily news, a dog that has been badly neglected or abused. And,
>>> we also hear of dogs that have attacked someone. The bottom line here is,
>>> all of these dogs have fallen victim to being in the hands of BAD people. I
>>> will always feel sorrow for the ones who are hurt by the hands of people,
>>> but I also feel sorrow for those that will be eauthanized because of an
>>> attack which could have prevented if they only had been in the hands of a
>>> GOOD and responsible owner.
>>> > > Dogs come into this world as babies, no matter what the breed, and
>>> puppies love and trust everyone. It is what they experience through their
>>> lives that develop their character as adult dogs. I believe that there is a
>>> lot to be said about both animals and children on how they are raised and
>>> the outcome.
>>> > > I really don't think that there are bad dogs, but I sure do believe
>>> there are alot of bad people. Not everyone out there are like the ones on
>>> this forum, who love and care about their dogs, how unfortunate for those
>>> dogs who lie in those peoples's hands.
>>> > >
>>> > > Becky & the Girls
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