That's an idea of what it'll looks like when embedded in a tab but it's
dependent on Sverrir's (and future) work.
M-A

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Mohamed Mansour <[email protected]>wrote:

> "Then you could directly see the effect of the settings you were changing
> on the printed output." So similar what Scott suggestion regarding inline
> editing? So something like this, or even more real-time ...  NOTE: I just
> drew this at work with mspaint with paint brush and transform ;x
>
> http://i42.tinypic.com/2lnxymd.png
>
> Ian, page size is useful we could add that as well. I personally don't know
> how complex we even want it. The chromium UI team is very very picky for
> every inch being put on screen. We could make a full blown printer settings
> page and have a "Advanced link" that expands more options. I don't know. I
> am just spitting out mocks.
>
> Maybe just place the preview as the main one and people click on
> appropriate places, but that will be confusing to many newbs.
>
>
>  -- Mohamed Mansour
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Marc-Antoine Ruel <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Yes it's still the goal but in the mean time it'd be nice to have
>> something to be able to configure the basic settings.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Ben Goodger (Google) 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I don't like these dialog boxes... I thought we had a more ambitious
>>> goal once upon a time to do some of this in-tab. Then you could
>>> directly see the effect of the settings you were changing on the
>>> printed output.
>>>
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Mohamed Mansour
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I removed the options part to give a more visualized idea:
>>> > http://i41.tinypic.com/syvz7p.png
>>> > Scott, I agree headers / footers are confusing everywhere, can you
>>> elaborate
>>> > on how we can do inline header/footer representation. I was thinking of
>>> the
>>> > same thing, but I thought it would be confusing for the user to
>>> actually
>>> > click that area, unless it is visually appealing. Ideas?
>>> >
>>> > -- Mohamed Mansour
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Scott Hess <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I think the headers and footers are confusing (everywhere).  Why not
>>> >> just a single popup for each selection which displays a real-time view
>>> >> of each thing?  So it might have items like:
>>> >>
>>> >> Header: "Bonsai Kitten
>>> >> http://www.shorty.com/bonsaikitten/";
>>> >> Footer: "Page 1 of 2
>>> June 2,
>>> >> 2009"
>>> >>
>>> >> Even better if it were in-line in the box that shows the page (header
>>> >> above, footer below).  Also better if it integrates with the margins,
>>> >> since the header and footer presumably take up some space, showing how
>>> >> that space is reclaimed might be valuable.
>>> >>
>>> >> -scott [not a UI designer, I hate almost all print panels, they almost
>>> >> always make what I want hard to do]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Marc-Antoine Ruel <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I like the mock.
>>> >> > Glen has a veto on any UI.
>>> >> > I think the "Options" is unnecessary until implemented so it can be
>>> >> > trimmed
>>> >> > off.
>>> >> > The inches/mm issue is well done in Microsoft Word where you can
>>> type
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > units you want to use instead of being forced to use one or another.
>>> >> > M-A
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Mohamed Mansour
>>> >> > <[email protected]>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi guys, how are you doing? I asked Marc-Antoine about creating a
>>> >> >> mock-up
>>> >> >> of the print settings so I was looking into different printer
>>> >> >> settings user interfaces from various products.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://i44.tinypic.com/rka0c5.png
>>> >> >> The similarities between them is quite similar, but I really like
>>> what
>>> >> >> Firefox has done with how they divide their sections, as well, how
>>> the
>>> >> >> display the marginal data on the fly.  They all have the following
>>> >> >> things in
>>> >> >> common:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Real-Time displaying of margin changes on the paper
>>> >> >> Changing headers / footers and allow custom desc
>>> >> >> Page orientations (Landscape and Portrait)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> What I liked about the Microsoft products is that everything is in
>>> one
>>> >> >> page. The user will not be confused with many
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> clicks, and everything is there. But, the sections are not divided, they 
>>> all look squished.
>>> >> >> Here is my initial proposal.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://i40.tinypic.com/14ki9w0.png
>>> >> >> Only a single page, where the user will enter his format, options
>>> (if
>>> >> >> any), margins, and header/footer. The components are same as
>>> Firefox
>>> >> >> but all
>>> >> >> in one page. We should probably do a drop down to state which
>>> metric to
>>> >> >> use
>>> >> >> (inch/cm) since only America uses inches.
>>> >> >> I have brought my mother to test this, and mind you, she is very
>>> new to
>>> >> >> computers (very inexperienced),  she liked the above version
>>> because
>>> >> >> everything she needs is in her finger tips and understands it
>>> better
>>> >> >> than
>>> >> >> the others.
>>> >> >> So that is my take, what do you think? I would like to send this
>>> email
>>> >> >> off
>>> >> >> to Ben/Glen/Nick since they are the UI team and may have a better
>>> UI
>>> >> >> perspective on how to do things. Let me know if its allowed to be
>>> sent
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> dev mailing list!
>>> >> >> Thanks!
>>> >> >> -- Mohamed Mansour
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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