I am willing to volunteer to be a test case if you need one, tell me what to
do so you will be able to monitor.Before I added that switch, it was pretty
horrible.

Though I am building stuff with Java, XSLT, JavaScript that process a lot of
files (HTMLs) and viewing and refreshing a lot of pages (in Chrome, mostly,
but sometimes in other browsers for cross browser support), plus Eclipse and
Outlook, if it matters.

☆PhistucK


On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 19:46, Mike Belshe <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ian Fette <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1. Most people are not doing compiles, we're trying to say that people
>> live in the web and in their browser, and that their browser is the primary
>> application. For me at least, that is true. The browser is the app I use the
>> most -- the only other app I use regularly is an ssh client, which can
>> usually fit in memory or get swapped back in much quicker than Chrome.
>
>
>
> This doesn't make sense as a use case, because if there is nothing else
> eating your memory, then the memory doesn't have to "swap in".  It's already
> there! :-)  For users with plenty of RAM like you, memory-model=medium
> should work just fine.
>
> The only people that might be effected by this is people that do have
> something else competing for the memory (like a compile, or they are on a
> low-memory box and outlook is eating it).
>
>  I do worry that virus scanners could churn through memory causing similar
> effects, but again, we measured for this and so far have been unable to
> detect any difference.
>
> At this point we could change to memory-model=high, despite having no
> real-world data that this is a problem.  Chrome would be perceived to use
> 25% more memory, and the folks on this thread that have compiles going might
> feel a better experience.  If we don't care about a 25% jump in memory use
> then we should switch the default even though data suggests it won't help.
>
> One more possibility:  maybe there is a bug we haven't yet identified.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> 2009/6/23 Peter Kasting <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  FWIW, I strongly believe we should move the default to
>>> --memory-model=high.  This is what pretty much every other app in the world
>>> does, and we mostly penalize ourselves when the OS aggressively swaps us out
>>> for a dumb reason (which yes, Windows does do).
>>> We have a lot of complaints of "I came back the next hour/day/whatever
>>> and everything was unresponsive".  I don't think our current tradeoff is the
>>> right one.
>>>
>>> I know Mike wants to be a good citizen and feels like if the OS swapped
>>> you out it really needed that RAM, but in my own observations of my machine
>>> the OS swaps for retarded reasons and I gain nothing but headaches.
>>>
>>> PK
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>
>

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