Hi Jeremy, ChromeFrame doesn't seem to work if you pass the URL in command
line for Internet Explorer. A simple example is visiting this page directly
(assuming you installed ChromeFrame)

   1. Open Internet Explorer
   2. Visit this http://haptisense.com/
   3. You will see the correct "After Browser" which is Chrome and "Original
   Browser" which is IE.

Now do this:

   1. cd "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer"
   2. Type:  iexplorer.exe http://haptisense.com
   3. You will see the correct "Original Browser" but the "After Browser" is
   still IE (you can notice the Chrome renderer isn't replaced because there is
   IE right click and rendering is obviously IE)

Same thing happens to iexplorer.exe -k http://haptisense.com

The patch I submitted, does what I wanted to do for demo purposes, I
contribute to Chrome because I love everything about this browser, and
seeing the usage of IE in my day job is quite annoying (since our GIS web
apps are plotting horribly slow in comparison to Chrome if given a lot of
data).

I could submit a cleaner patch (which does it right) that introduces Kiosk
mode for Chrome. Are there any *objections*?

 -Mohamed


On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jor...@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:30 AM, Mohamed Mansour <m...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> I tried ChromeFrame it is very good, but it doesn't work if the Kiosk Mode
>> flag is set. If the Kiosk mode is set ( iexplorer.exe -k
>> http://www.google.com ) it renders it as IE Renderer. It renders it fine
>> in a Chrome Frame if its not in Kiosk mode. That must be a bug :)
>
>
> wait, did you do '... -k cf:http://www.google.com'?  (Or does the Google
> home page use Chrome Frame?)
>
> (Not that I'm saying this is the right route.  It sounds like a command
> line flag for Chrome might be the best way to go!)
>
> For IE, kiosk mode has a context menu, but people usually apply the
>> registry tweak to remove context menu from IE if they need to.
>>
>> For Chromium, it would be nice if stuff like this would be an extension,
>> an extension should allow us to show/hide various parts of the UI. In the
>> meantime, I quickly compiled a custom Chromium so that my CEO and VP could
>> see the benefits of using Chrome instead of IE on some of our web products.
>>
>> Stuff that would be cool and would be very lightweight to include for
>> kiosk mode would be:
>> - No Status Bar- Full Screen (with no exit, only alt+f4 should work)
>> - No Context Menus (should be an option)
>> - Disable downloading of files.
>> - No tabs
>> - No opening files
>> - many more
>>
>> I would rather that be an extension (but there are currently no way to
>> actually block users to remove extensions, maybe blocking users entering a
>> url would suffice) but not possible currently.
>>
>>  -Mohamed
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Amit Joshi <a...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Darin Fisher <da...@chromium.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chrome Frame is a good option, but you'd still need a way to turn off
>>>> some features.  For example, a kiosk probably doesn't want to have a 
>>>> context
>>>> menu.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chrome Frame can/will offer control over the context menu. This is
>>> exactly the kind of customization Chrome Frame can offer. Too bad we don't
>>> have Linux, Mac versions yet, but we are open source now so patches welcome
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Darin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Amit Joshi <a...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you should really consider embedding chrome frame ActiveX in
>>>>> your own simple shell. That will not only enable the application to be
>>>>> started with desired real estate and get rid of status bubble but allow 
>>>>> you
>>>>> to customize it further if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Darin Fisher <da...@chromium.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Mohamed Mansour 
>>>>>> <m...@chromium.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At work today, I talked to the CEO of my company to ship Chrome
>>>>>>> browser with all our Kiosk's and recommended Chrome to be our default
>>>>>>> browser for our web products. I bench marked our current web 
>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>> with Chrome (ToT) vs IE 7, and our applications run at average 10 times
>>>>>>> faster. (For windows, Mac speed differed)
>>>>>>> There are some stuff that he didn't like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Status Bubble: for a cashiering application, it keeps popping
>>>>>>>    up every second since buttons are all over the place. It was 
>>>>>>> distracting him
>>>>>>>    from the main product.
>>>>>>>    2. Full screen mode "always" => Kiosk Mode. He wants the web app
>>>>>>>    to stay full screen, in IE, there is kiosk mode command line switch. 
>>>>>>> In FF
>>>>>>>    there is a plugin.
>>>>>>>    3. JavaScript errors kept appearing intermittently (on the Mac),
>>>>>>>    would work on initial deploy but require a "Clear browsing data" on
>>>>>>>    subsequent runs. Works great on windows (chrome). I guess we would 
>>>>>>> be using
>>>>>>>    linux/windows for kiosk anyhow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will there be plans for us to introduce Kiosk Mode in Chrome? It
>>>>>>> seems the current audience is just targeted towards home users and 
>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>> no way to use Google Chrome for other usages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure we could compile our own Chromium version, but many people
>>>>>>> (Chrome forums and elsewhere) would like to use Chrome commercially. In 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> meantime, I am going to compile a version with no status bar, but I 
>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>> it would be nice to include it in future versions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we could allow extensions to control (hide/show) different
>>>>>>> areas in chrome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I'm in the minority, but it doesn't sound that unreasonable to
>>>>>> support command line options for disabling the status bubble and 
>>>>>> starting in
>>>>>> full screen mode.  We could lump these together into a --kiosk-mode 
>>>>>> command
>>>>>> line flag.  This seems like something that could be done in a fairly
>>>>>> lightweight manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe others object?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Darin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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