I was agreeing with Ben, I thought.
- in-page discovery ui
- script can't initiate out-of-page ui
- only user actions can bring up out-of-page ui

Linus


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Nick Baum <nickb...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I think Ben meant that the javascript would have to come from a user-click
> (just like for popups), which I totally support.
> For what it's worth, I think it will be better for the page to provide
> in-context discovery of this (in Gmail settings, for example), rather than
> force the user to discover an out-of-page UI. I really don't see this
> happening very often, so I'm not particularly worried about it being
> annoying.
>
> -Nick
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Linus Upson <li...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes. Please do not add more ways for script to instigate out-of-page UI.
>> It is all evil.
>> Linus
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) 
>> <b...@chromium.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We should only allow this UI to be invoked from a user gesture.
>>>
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jor...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > What's to keep sites from spamming you?  What if they spam you and then
>>> > later you decide you want to install it anyway?
>>> > I guess I misunderstood the model of this feature.  Seeing the bit
>>> about the
>>> > rss feeds made me think that an app would use this to advertise that
>>> you
>>> > could install it.  I didn't realize that we were assuming the API would
>>> only
>>> > be called after a user action.  To be honest, I much prefer the rss
>>> feed way
>>> > of thinking about it.
>>> > I'm not a UI guy, though.  :-)
>>> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <
>>> b...@chromium.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> As a result, I think we should have a dialog here. It's similar to
>>> what
>>> >> Firefox does, too.
>>> >> -Ben
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brian Rakowski <br...@chromium.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In general, we've been operating under the assumption that a
>>> >>> user-initiated gesture ("click here to make gmail your mailto
>>> handler")
>>> >>> results in a dialog. Non-user-initiated (site intitiated) results in
>>> an
>>> >>> infobar. If you've denied the infobar this in the past, the site will
>>> have
>>> >>> to get you to click on something in its UI to prompt you for this
>>> again.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Peter Kasting <pkast...@google.com
>>> >
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jor...@chromium.org
>>> >
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> If you click no on an info bar, then how would you later change
>>> your
>>> >>>>> mind?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I don't know.  Maybe at that point the icon appears in the address
>>> bar.
>>> >>>> PK
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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