Yes, I think we're on the same page: you don't mean that the user has to
click some UI element out-of-page (as the original proposal suggested), but
that the script that triggers the out-of-page UI has to originate from a
user action.
-Nick
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Linus Upson <li...@google.com> wrote:
> I was agreeing with Ben, I thought.
> - in-page discovery ui
> - script can't initiate out-of-page ui
> - only user actions can bring up out-of-page ui
>
> Linus
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Nick Baum <nickb...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> I think Ben meant that the javascript would have to come from a user-click
>> (just like for popups), which I totally support.
>> For what it's worth, I think it will be better for the page to provide
>> in-context discovery of this (in Gmail settings, for example), rather than
>> force the user to discover an out-of-page UI. I really don't see this
>> happening very often, so I'm not particularly worried about it being
>> annoying.
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Linus Upson <li...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Please do not add more ways for script to instigate out-of-page UI.
>>> It is all evil.
>>> Linus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <b...@chromium.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We should only allow this UI to be invoked from a user gesture.
>>>>
>>>> -Ben
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jor...@chromium.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > What's to keep sites from spamming you? What if they spam you and
>>>> then
>>>> > later you decide you want to install it anyway?
>>>> > I guess I misunderstood the model of this feature. Seeing the bit
>>>> about the
>>>> > rss feeds made me think that an app would use this to advertise that
>>>> you
>>>> > could install it. I didn't realize that we were assuming the API
>>>> would only
>>>> > be called after a user action. To be honest, I much prefer the rss
>>>> feed way
>>>> > of thinking about it.
>>>> > I'm not a UI guy, though. :-)
>>>> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <
>>>> b...@chromium.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As a result, I think we should have a dialog here. It's similar to
>>>> what
>>>> >> Firefox does, too.
>>>> >> -Ben
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brian Rakowski <br...@chromium.org
>>>> >
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In general, we've been operating under the assumption that a
>>>> >>> user-initiated gesture ("click here to make gmail your mailto
>>>> handler")
>>>> >>> results in a dialog. Non-user-initiated (site intitiated) results in
>>>> an
>>>> >>> infobar. If you've denied the infobar this in the past, the site
>>>> will have
>>>> >>> to get you to click on something in its UI to prompt you for this
>>>> again.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Peter Kasting <
>>>> pkast...@google.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jeremy Orlow <
>>>> jor...@chromium.org>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> If you click no on an info bar, then how would you later change
>>>> your
>>>> >>>>> mind?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I don't know. Maybe at that point the icon appears in the address
>>>> bar.
>>>> >>>> PK
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>
>
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