For those unacquainted with wastewater treatment, sewers are not generally 
"flushed".  They are usually designed to gravity flow to the treatment plant, 
or, if gravity flow is not sufficient, pumping stations are included in the 
plan.  There is never any "flushing" as we would generally understand the 
term.  The undersigned has done a great number of wastewater 
treatment/sanitary/storm sewer financings during the course of his professional 
career and feels very strongly that there has been no greater contribution to 
civilized life or to the benefit of the environment than the proper treatment 
of effluent.  It ain't sexy and since the Sierra Club already has this stuff in 
place, they ain't going to care.
 
But Churchill had it right again!  An amazing guy!
 
Jonathan Hayes

--- On Wed, 2/23/11, Turrell, David A (Dave) 
<[email protected]> wrote:


From: Turrell, David A (Dave) <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] "I see little glory in an Empire which can rule 
the waves and is unable to flush its sewers".
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 1:47 PM


Dear Antoine,

The review is reproduced in the same volume of the biography, directly
after the letter referenced below.  It is referred to as [?Unpublished]
so finding it elsewhere may be a challenge.  Let me know offlist if you
would like a scan of it.

I did double-check and the word 'own' does not appear in the printed
quotation.

Best

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Antoine Capet
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ChurchillChat] "I see little glory in an Empire which can rule
the waves and is unable to flush its sewers".

Dear Dave,

Many thanks for this. I had "I see little glory in an Empire which can
rule 
the waves and is unable to flush its OWN sewers" in my records, but with
no 
definite date.

I am intrigued by :

WSC had apparently been much stirred by reading Seebohm
> Rowntree's "Poverty: A Study of Town Life" which he subsequently
> reviewed.

Is the review reprinted anywhere - or, even better, on line somewhere ?

Incidentally, I use Rowntree's book a lot in my lecturing - a
fascinating 
survey and one of the first scholarly books to have colour in it. 
Unreservedly recommended for anyone interested in the "condition of
England" 
question c.1900 - as the young Churchill undoubtedly was.

Best,

Antoine Capet
Rouen, France

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Turrell, David A (Dave)" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:46 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] In need of assistance.

> This quote appears in a letter from WSC to J. Moore Bayley, December
> 23rd 1901.  WSC had apparently been much stirred by reading Seebohm
> Rowntree's "Poverty: A Study of Town Life" which he subsequently
> reviewed.
>
> "I see little glory in an Empire which can rule the waves and is
unable
> to flush its sewers".
>
> Quoted in Volume 3 of the Hillsdale "Churchill Documents", otherwise
> known as Volume 1 Companion Volume 3 of the Official Biography.
>
> Best,
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perpetuo991
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:11 PM
> To: ChurchillChat
> Subject: [ChurchillChat] In need of assistance.
>
> Dear Churchillians,
>
> I am in need of a reference to a quotation, "there is very little
> glory in an Empire that can rule the waves but cannot flush her
> sewers." or something to that effect. Any assistance is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> KTL
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