I always use Nesting feature, for more complex projects, like showed in
the my old screencasts.
https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2019-September/001051.html
And in the CinelerraGG_manual_WorkInProgress (well done) in 5.7.8
section you can find more information.
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_manual_WIP.pdf
Yes, if you update one, or more Sequences, the Master Project is not
update with the last changes that you had done on them, but you can
re-load the updated Sequences and overwrite them in the Timeline if you
work with method. (And I use, or better, I used also Proxy with Nested)
I am speaking about, before the last changes; I only saw the Phyllis' Demo.
IgorBeg
Il 28/12/2019 8.52, Haldun ALTAN ha scritto:
Hello,
I don't know if i get this right or wrong but i already worked with
several timelines in cinelerra.
They were, in your exemple, "intro", "part 1", "part 2", "credits" and
each of it in was in a seperate project that you could put together by
only copy and paste, from one project to another.
Is the différence is they are now in the same project ?
Haldun.
Le 28/12/2019 à 00:41, Sam a écrit :
One of the greatest strengths of commercial NLEs is the ability to
work with multiple timelines.
Why work with multiple timelines?
A movie project can be divided into several sections such as intro,
main part 1, main part 2 and credits.
From this I make four timelines called Intro, Part 1, Part 2, Credits.
This splits the whole movie project into four parts and allows faster
working in the main window, because not the whole movie project is
loaded in the main window, but only a quarter of the movie. This
speeds up the work a lot and allows other contributors to work on
different parts of a film project and finally add them together and
make an overall coordination.
When the intro, main part 1, main part 2 and the credits are
finished, these timelines are joined together to form an overall
timeline.
A new timeline called Composition is created and Timeline Intro,
Timeline Part 1, Timeline Part 2 and Timeline Credits are dragged
into it.
Basically this feature is an extension of the EDL feature.
I created the photomontage very fast and therefore they have a lot of
potential for improvement. The final solution can of course look
completely different, the pictures only serve to illustrate my idea.
Sam
On 26.12.19 03:12, Phyllis Smith wrote:
Never hurts to make suggestions -- sometimes things get done when an
unexpected need arises here.
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 5:36 PM Sam <cinele...@posteo.de
<mailto:cinele...@posteo.de>> wrote:
Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this feature for
so long, but due to his long wish list I did not dare to say.
This feature is the basis for several timelines. I miss the
timeline feature in Cinelerra for a long time. If you agree, I
would like to make some suggestions on this topic for January.
This EDL feature can be extended relatively easily in my opinion.
Sam
On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:
With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included
with your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example,
if you have a nested clip that originally had several plugins
added to it before it was nested, you can edit those plugin
parameter values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL
clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from
scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as
described below by the ****.
In addition a couple of modifications related to this are
noticeable to include the following:
- in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which
was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"
- in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to
Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder
for example:
1) load some test media, mode replace project
2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and
press ok. clip is created
3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present
4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item
Open EDL
5) timeline changes to just the clip content.
6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in
the main menu bar.
7) timeline is restored to original media.
8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline.
The effect is visible.
**** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL"
for the highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the
clip will be brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to
note*, the previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this
is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get back to that
you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by clicking
on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline
above where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this
button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when
back to your original timeline. You can go several levels deep
so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you
that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open
on the timeline, you can edit it however you want.
- in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the
Nested clip will be located here
- in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now
called "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being
reverted to a clip and back into the clip folder with only a
name of "Clip #". The nested clip is also still in the Media
folder.
- in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open
EDL" as described for clips above. But in this case when you
Open EDL and edit the changes, those changes will take affect
on any and all occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline.
I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars
that contain this and other mods in the Download /
Documentation / File Storage at cinelerra-gg.org
<http://cinelerra-gg.org>. Would be happy to make static tars
for any other usual distro/version if you would like to test early.
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