Yes it's clear
HDV 1080i "Top field first"
and DV "Bottom field first"
In my case I can verify this with my old HDV camera HVR-Z1U, which can
record and transfer either in HDV or DV (ntsc).
Here is what mediainfo says about the material shot:
An example of HDV material
General
ID : 255 (0xFF)
Complete name : exemple.m2t
Format : MPEG-TS
Commercial name : HDV 1080i
File size : 30.2 MiB
Duration : 10s 878ms
Start time : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:03
End time : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:14
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 23.2 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 33.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:03
Video
ID : 2064 (0x810)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
Format : MPEG Video
Commercial name : HDV 1080i
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High 1440
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 10s 544ms
Bit rate : 21.7 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.466
Stream size : 27.3 MiB (90%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 2068 (0x814)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 3
Duration : 10s 584ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -252ms
Stream size : 496 KiB (2%)
Menu
ID : 129 (0x81)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
List : 2064 (0x810) (MPEG Video) /
2068 (0x814) (MPEG Audio) / 2069 (0x815) () / 2065 (0x811) ()
An example of DV material (ntsc)
General
Complete name : exemple.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DV
File size : 446 MiB
Duration : 2mn 3s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mbps
Recorded date : 2015-10-08 15:18:53.000
Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 2mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space :
/home/pierre/Bureau/MEDIAS_POUR_MONTAGE/AUTRES_sources/Pour_TESTS/Noir_de_camera/Noir_de_camera-HDV_HVR-Z1U_2016.01.11_11-15-03YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 00:00:02:08
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 423 MiB (95%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=manual / wb
mode=pre-set / white balance=incandescent lamp / fcm=manual focus
Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 2mn 3s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.6 MiB (5%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms
Pierre
Le 20-11-01 à 09 h 49, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin a écrit :
Sorry for my typo and confusion below, which should be
To confirm DV "Bottom field first" and HDV 1080i "Top field first"
..............
General
Complete name :
/home/pierre/Bureau/MEDIAS_POUR_MONTAGE/AUTRES_sources/Pour_TESTS/Color-bars_référence_de_HVR-Z1U/Color_bars_DV.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DV
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 2.12 GiB
Duration : 10mn 1s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mbps
Recorded date : 2015-10-05 11:09:56.000
Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 10mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 00:09:19:19
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 2.02 GiB (95%)
Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 10mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 110 MiB (5%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms
Terje J. H
Den 01.11.2020 15:29, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Due to my email address change, my messages to the Cin list seem to
await moderator approval. In the meantime I'm sorry to post a copy to
Pierre and Andrew here.
To confirm DV "Top field first" and HDV 1080i "Bottom field first" and
verify more details on both PAL formats, I've added output using
ffprobe and mediainfo on real video clips I've recorded as below:
PAL- DV 720x576i /25, 25 Mbps, 8-bit Y.U.V. 4:2:0
======= =========================================
(recorded to Hi8 tape with a Sony TR-2000E Hi8 camcorder, and next
converted the S-video to .DV file using a Datavideo DN-300, Analog to
Digital converter & HDV / DV Hard Disk Recorder)
> ffprobe dv01_07.dv
....................
Input #0, dv, from 'dv01_07.dv':
Metadata:
timecode : 01:09:35:09
Duration: 00:01:53.28, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 28800 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3],
25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
> mediainfo dv01_07.dv
......................
General
Complete name : dv01_07.dv
Format : DV
File size : 389 MiB
Duration : 1 min 53 s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 28.8 Mb/s
Video
Format : DV
Duration : 1 min 53 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 01:09:35:09
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 330 MiB (85%)
Audio
ID : 0
Format : PCM
Format settings : Big / Signed
Duration : 1 min 53 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 20.7 MiB (5%)
PAL - HDV 1440x1080i/ 25, 25 Mbps, 8-bit Y.U.V. 4:2:0
=====================================================
(recorded to miniHDV tape with a Sony HDR-FX7E HDV camcorder, and next
to to .M2T file using a Datavideo DN-300 HDV / DV Hard Disk Recorder)
> ffprobe hdv01_03.m2t
.....................
Input #0, mpegts, from 'hdv01_03.m2t':
Duration: 00:10:58.22, start: 1966.896000, bitrate: 26099 kb/s
Program 100
Stream #0:0[0x810]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9],
25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
Stream #0:1[0x814]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
stereo, s16p, 384 kb/s
Stream #0:2[0x815]: Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)
Stream #0:3[0x811]: Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)
> mediainfo hdv01_03.m2t
........................
General
ID : 255 (0xFF)
Complete name : hdv01_03.m2t
Format : MPEG-TS
Commercial name : HDV 1080i
File size : 2.00 GiB
Duration : 10 min 57 s
Start time : UTC 2007-02-04 13:10:17
End time : UTC 2007-02-08 11:27:00
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 26.1 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 33.0 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2007-02-04 13:10:17
Video
ID : 2064 (0x810)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
Format : MPEG Video
Commercial name : HDV 1080i
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High 1440
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 10 min 57 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 440 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.628
Stream size : 1.87 GiB (94%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 2068 (0x814)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Codec ID : 3
Duration : 10 min 57 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -192 ms
Stream size : 30.1 MiB (1%)
Menu
ID : 129 (0x81)
Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
List : 2064 (0x810) (MPEG Video) /
2068 (0x814) (MPEG Audio) / 2069 (0x815) () / 2065 (0x811) ()
----------------
Terje J. H
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