Den 08.01.2024 23:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 01:25 Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]>:



    пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 23:50 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:



        Den 08.01.2024 20:54, skrev Andrea paz:
        > I created a bd.m2ts file by putting "HDV 1080i/25" as the
        preset.

        I think there possibly is a fault in the "HDV 1080i/25" preset
        (mixed
        with the (FHD) "1080i/25 preset" as mentioned in another post
        today:
        https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2024-January/007628.html

        > Bd-render worked until the renderig was complete then CinGG
        shut down
        > (I don't have a BD-burner). Doing ffprobe on this video I get:
        >
        > Input #0, mpegts, from 'bd.m2ts':
        >    Duration: 00:01:06.91, start: 0.074667, bitrate: 10242 kb/s
        >    Program 1
        >    Stream #0:0[0x1011]: Video: h264 (High) ([27][0][0][0] /
        0x001B),
        > yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 4:3],
        25 fps, 25
        > tbr, 90k tbn
        >    Stream #0:1[0x1100](ita): Audio: ac3 (AC-3 / 0x332D4341),
        48000 Hz,
        > stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s
        >
        > The video is slightly stretched and reduced to 4:3 from the
        original
        > 16:9. By applying the downsample filter and setting H and V
        to 40 the
        > pixels become clearly visible and can be seen to be square.(cfr
        > http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/anamorphic.html)
        >
        > In postimage, I have uploaded several screenshots showing the
        > "info--details" of the three original sources that make up
        the video,
        > of the bd.m2ts (hdv.jpeg) file, and also of how the "set
        format" is
        > automatically set.
        > [@Andrew, is it possible to put PAR and DAR in the Set
        Format window
        > as shown in the image?]
        >
        > Note: If I force, in Set Format, the aspect ratio (DAR) to
        16:9 I get,
        > with the downsample filter, rectangular pixels. But the
        video is no
        > longer deformed....
        Yes, I am also curious, because I tried to set the parameters
        manually
        and then rendered to webm, but still 4:3 format on stored file
        icon and
        displayed in VLC. I got a feeling that manual changing W Rate
        to 1.3333
        didn't really work and was changed back to 1.000. Can really
        Canvas
        Width/Height, W Rate/H Rate and Aspect Ratio in Set> Format be
        user
        defined independently?



    (display) aspect ratio surely set as part of "profile" see

    cinelerra/defaultformats.h

    W rate/H rate seems to be purely informational, as in you can  set
    user preset and then manually change dimensions/aspect rate and it
    will show .. not exactly rate as num/den, but more like width
    multiplier / height multiplier. So, you enter NOT 4 and 3 there
    (it will make cannas 4*1440 width, 1080 * 3 height!) but 1.3333
    and 1.0 to see dimensions go fullHD. or set fullhd from dropdown
    menu and see ratio go to 1.333/1.0 Seems more like local
    calculator, because ratio[] array is local to this code module and
    mainwindow.C does not consult it for SAR - going purely by set
    display aspect ratio and dimensions.


If I understand this correct, W rate/H rate is not the same as PAR nor SAR(?)

Here also an url to Adobe Premiere docs about Aspect Ratios:
https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/using/aspect-ratios-field-options.html



    I looked at code at cinelerra/setformat.C and I am not sure how it
    works :)

    I will look at screenshots a bit later, now Fennec dog wants out
    (fireworks finally faded away)



I also found some recent bugreports about various video software and asoect ratio

https://github.com/HandBrake/HandBrake/issues/5658

see log, where it says

|[20:12:27] WARNING: bitstream PAR 1:1 != container PAR 9:16 |
so, may be we also should be super verbose and print TWO SAR values if detected, one from bitstream (codec) and another from container?

See also avidemux question

https://avidemux.org/smif/index.php?topic=19617.0

====
Few video players honor pixel aspect ratio info from codec rather from the container, [..]
====
and openshot bug

https://github.com/OpenShot/libopenshot/issues/489

auto-closed due to bot?? so not sure if it was fixed or not in openshot.

So, we are not only ones who STILL confused by all this :p



        .
        >
        > The patch seems to work, as "guessed SAR/DAR" and "detected
        SAR/DAR"
        > appear, but only in source1. In source2 (which is a 4k)
        there are
        > neither, and in source3 and hdv.jpeg there is only "guessed
        SAR/DAR".
        >
        > The other 3 patches also seem to work since rendering
        bd.m2ts worked.
        >
        > https://postimg.cc/kDNqfpT0
        > https://postimg.cc/SJyq5f5J
        > https://postimg.cc/VdD1cbQ4
        > https://postimg.cc/ctWZdRLk
        > https://postimg.cc/tnzbJs1q

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