On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:10:44AM +0100, Andraz Tori wrote: > On tor, 2006-02-21 at 23:31 +0100, Nicolas wrote: > > > > Thanks Hannes, > > > > Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed about all the stuff needed to > > build cinelerra. Do most of the developpers of Cinelerra use Gentoo? I > > run Debian SID, and here's what I get : autoreconf --version Autoconf > > version 2.13 automake --version automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 > > libtoolize --version libtoolize (GNU libtool) 1.5.22 > > Developers use different distros, as far as regular building of > packages, Debian unstable is the most supported. Followed by Ubuntu... > > Why don't you use already built packages?
I'm not confident with already built packages taken from a place on the internet which is not a "reliable source". Unless you could give me a reliable source of already built packages. I talk about the last versions of the SVN... I'd be interested in such an information. > > I build lot's of programs on my system, and Cinelerra is the only one > > which forces me to install another programs using source. Generally, > > other programs do not need the latest version. > > Well... there are not many full featured editing suites that you can get > for free... We are severely underpowered and are calling for help all > the time. If you have any talent in writing tutorials, creating video > tutorials or maybe creating the missing icons, we would be really glad > to get any help. I'm not a programmer. However, I promote Cinelerra on forums, and I often put the Cinelerra icon on my videos (which are seen by tens of thousands people). What I am really good at is photography, but I'm not sure that would be of any interest for Cinelerra. What I could do is taking a picture for the Cinelerra window which appears when Cinelerra is launched? ;-) > > Are the latest versions of autoreconf and automake REALLY necessary for > > Cinelerra? Is it REALLY necessary to force users to install the latest > > version just to get the same configuration than the developpers? :-/ > > no, it is not expected of users to build it themselves. Though Gentoo > users tend to do that a lot, don't know why :) I want to build it from SVN because I encounter a very big bug with Cinelerra. I can't load any project when launching it from a "normal" user. Cinelerra works when it's launched from the root account only. Perhaps the problem comes from my configuration, from other programs on my computer. I just don't know why. Since I don't get any clue, I decided to built the latest SVN. That's the reason. Now, I would like to precise my ideas, because I fear I did not explained clearly the problem. I REALLY appreciate the wonderful job Cinelerra SVN developpers do. Cinelerra greatly improved since I used it for the first time. It works really fine (well, at least when I launch it from the root account since last WE ;-)). And this mailing-list is really active and useful. I already get very useful help and information on this mailing-list, and that's very very good! I get a problem with the version of other programs needed for building the latest SVN. I already built SVN 3 or 4 months ago, and I encountered a problem with the x264 library, which some of you helped me to solved on this mailing list. You gave me the URL where I could get that library which I need to build Cinelerra, since it wasn't possible to deactivate it when configuring Cinelerra. Now, the version of autoconf and another program which are on my computer aren't up to date. That's why I give my opinion. I'm probably not the best person to give my opinion, for sure. But doesn't user opinion is interesting sometime? Perhaps what I wrote was totally unjustified, and I'm sure you know what you're talking about, and I believe you. But I'm surprised by the fact that compiling Cinelerra needs versions of programs which aren't the ones which are shipped with a Debian SID up-to-date. I do not encounter such problems when compiling other programs. Generally Debian SID packages contains programs which version is not that old. I though "Hey, is that normal?" "Are developpers aware of that?" I try to understand. Now, perhaps the versions of those programs are needed because they are really important for the latest SVN versions. Anyway, I don't want you to think I do not respect your work. I really know some of you are really involved in developping Cinelerra SVN. And thanks to your work, the SVN version is what it is now: a very good video editor. Look at my messages I post on this mailing list. They often finish with the word "Thanks". That the way for me to tell I really appreciate your work, for developping a free and very good software I often use. I hope I clearly explained my opinion. My French is better than my English, but I'm not sure you would understand me better. ;-) Thanks. Nicolas. _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
