Interesting idea, reducing quality as an artistic effect. I suppose some
people indeed might want it, so we could make it an option. Not for me
though.

On 25/08/07, Derek McTavish Mounce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm know, I'm brining this thread monstrously off topic, but there are a
> few more things I need to respond to... :)
>
>
> > To me, the "distance" theory sounds too much like rationalisation.
>
> Think about it this way: The smooth motion of 50hz and 60hz is far closer
> to what our eyes see in reality, so when we see that smooth video on
> screen, our minds bring us more directly and literally into what we see;
> we are the camera.  Artistically, as a director, you don't want that most
> often.  Proper camera shots are always symbolic and meaningful, and
> truthfully, quite far from reality.  The audience isn't literally directly
> above the action, looking down in a constrained and ordered view, but
> constrained and ordered --that's what the audience is supposed to feel
> about what they're seeing.  When the smooth motion brings the audience
> into the lens --oops, no, stop flying.
>
>
> > For decades, smooth motion and low production values went hand in hand.
>
> True true, the inexpensiveness of video allowed many people who shouldn't
> be behind a camera to be, and the efforts they created were horrifying.
> Are still horrifying.  But have you ever seen a something done with high
> production values shot on video --even just one shot or two out of many
> 24p?  It's a very strange moment when that smooth motion kicks in.  More
> than just the sudden contrast from the 24p, that literalness of "you are
> the lens" is aesthetically inappropriate in almost all cases.
>
>
> Again, I'm not at all arguing that Cinelerra needs to work well with
> interlaced video; it does indeed.  I'm just, at this point, trying to
> stress the validity of 24p.
>
> And, by the way, that's a very interesting though about the
> split-the-fields-into-frames-apply-fx-then-back (errh?) you had.  I've
> thought of splitting the fields into frames for slow motion purposes, but
> never going back to interlaced.  In fact, I've never seen this technique
> in any existing editor, no matter the level of professionalism or cost.
>
> 'twould be an interesting and notable contribution to Cinelerra.
>
>
> -=Derek
>
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