I agree with you 100%. A lot of is powerless frustration. Unfortunely, I add the following: if a video-editing (or photo-editing) software is not good enough for the necessities of video-editors (or photo-editors), what's the point in making it in the first place?
I believe the problem comes because the development core team usually consists ONLY of coders - who do video or photography in their spare spare time and think they know what's needed. The feature requests become overwelming because the usual course of action is "coders develop, they upload the product, and then the community tells them what they think". This is, I think, a paradigm mistake - we are confusing "community feature requests" with "working together with users". The development team should have professional (or advanced amateur) users, so they can really work directly with coders to get a tool that really answers the necessities of a given group. More thoughts? :) Leandro P.s.: and we should also not let coders draw icons and buttons for the software: they suck at it :P 2008/3/14, Thomas King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The issue is are there enough coders with enough spare time to take care of > all > the feature requests? Since generally they aren't being paid for it (except > perhaps those lucky enough to work in a company that encourages them to), > they > must work on it during their spare time. If they have a family, especially > younger kids, that means they may only have a couple of hours after work. In > the > meantime, feature requests may take a back seat to securing the code or > making > the existing base more efficient. > > Granted, the ideal situation is where the developers have all the time and > resources they need to implement those requests, but after a while they > begin to > get frustrated with endless feature requests they cannot fulfill. Hence, for > those looking in from the outside, an attitude of "If you can't code it > yourself, don't bug us!" comes across. > > Dunno ... there may be other issues lurking. There may be genuine bad > attitudes > as well but I'm betting a lot of it is frustration. > > Thoughts? > Tom K. > > > > I don't agree: it's an attitude issue. > > > > We don't need money to LISTEN what professional users have to say. If > > the problem was "We don't have photographers come here and work with > > us for free" I would agree with you, but the problem is "They come > > here and want to be part of it, but they are rushed out because they > > don't want or know how to program". > > > > If there are coders willing to work for free, what makes you think > > that there are no users willing to create a focus group for free? > > > > 2008/3/14, Thomas King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > Last point I want to make: one of the HUGE problems with free software > >> > is the fact that it doesn't care much for some "details" as > >> > proprietary software. Take Adobe Photoshop as an example: they don't > >> > just have people who programs in their teams, they have photographers > >> > that just sit there and say "this is important, this is irrelevant, > >> > photographers work this way, photographers work that way". I've been > >> > for a while in The Gimp forums, where the ruling philosophy is "If you > >> > can't contribute with code, don't bug us with Gimp should have this > >> > and Gimp should have that" - and that explains why so few > >> > photographers use The Gimp. > >> > >> > >> Good point but be aware Photoshop gets a paycheck regularly. GIMP gets > >> donations. The disparity between the two amounts is HUGE, so Photoshop > does > >> have > >> the "luxury" (albeit a business requirement) to have focus groups and > such. > >> Projects like the GIMP have no such and have a majority of volunteers > coding > >> with professionals that drop in code on occasion. True, GIMP did have a > big > >> boost a few years ago when some companies took interest and funded some > >> features, but overall that tends to be the exception. > >> > >> So, are you saying you are ready to bankroll the features requested and > pay > >> for > >> hosting the focus groups? ;) > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Cinelerra mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cinelerra mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cinelerra mailing list > [email protected] > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
