This is a SLOW and TEDIOUS process but well worth it in the end. Lots of our 
customers request network assessments and we carry them out the manner 
explained in this email. I will also use show ip eigrp ne/show ip ospf ne/ or 
other vendor commands to discover devices off various ports. I also review 
configurations for port descriptions and try to verify those with the real 
world setup. Usually provides a good starting point for the assessment. The 
best thing about all this is that you end up finding tons of stuff that is 
either configured incorrectly or is not doing anything at all. This gives you a 
chance to get a feel for how the network was intended to be used, how it was 
managed in the past (clean configurations are a good sign of a well managed 
network is their are accurately configured). I often find that certain networks 
have a sort of "personality" about the way that they have been configured. That 
gives me a good idea of how close i need to look based on the amount !
 of time i have to complete the discovery process. But the bottom line is that 
you have to get as much information as you can from the devices themselves 
through cdp/lldp/neighbor/arp/cam tables and then start drawing. Asking for 
help from anyone on the staff responsible for certain setups (firewalls for 
example) is also a great help. There is really no way to avoid lots of tough 
work on a network discovery but it does certainly pay huge dividends in the 
end. I routinely find issues in customer networks that they didn't even realize 
that they had and had chocked them up to "Ghosts in the Machine". After 
identifying them with a proper discovery and mapping it out in Visio, i can 
easily explain my solution to them and get things corrected.

Just my two cents. I agree with the manual method for sure

Mike

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Shore [EMAIL 
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:32 PM
To: Roger Oliver
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Network Topology Mapping

Roger Oliver wrote:
> Maybe not the best way but it has worked for me in the past.
>
> Enable CDP on all your network devices (Just for a little whlie).
>
> Now logon to each record the "CDP neighbor detail" output
>
> Pick a router/switch say "core-1"
> How many CDP neighbors?
> Which ports are they connected to?
> Draw these connections on paper this is just a rough draft so a big box with 
> lines and labels is fine.
>
> Once you've done that pick one of these neighbors and see what they see and 
> so on.
>
> There are I am sure tones of better ways to do this. But when I go somewhere 
> to consult and they don't have clear documentation this is how I get started.

This is exactly how I do it too.  I also verify everything visually.  On
my grand flowchart I also label interfaces and then go back to Visio and
start drawing it.  It's a slow tedious process but that's the only true
way to determine the complete network topology.  I've often non-CDP
enabled devices on the network that complicate a CDP discovery.
Detailing exactly what connects to where visually is the only safe bet.

I've also used LAN Surveyor for a quick sanity check for before and
after maintenance windows to make sure that we didn't accidentally lose
a large portion of a network in the process.

I'd recommend a manual check over an automated check any day of the week.

Justin

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