The reality though is that both JunOS and Cisco IOS have their quirks. Having 
used both I find it hard to believe anyone can actually justify that JunOS is 
"more intuitive" than Cisco IOS. JunOS does have some cooler features, that I 
will definitely admit.

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Regards,

Jason Plank
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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * Jonathan Crawford:
> 
> > I do have to agree with Ben on this one... shutdown/negation of
> > shutdown is one of the last things I would say is
> > counter-intuitive... with JunOS the equivalent would be "deactivate
> > interfaces ge-0/0/0" to shutdown ge-0/0/0. They are active by
> > default when you create the entries for them and commit, but to
> > activate a deactivated... it is just "activate interface ..."
> 
> Uhm, no.  A deactivated configuration item is considered not to be
> present in the configuration at all, which means you cannot reference
> that interface anywhere else in the configuration (that would be an
> error that prevents you from committing the change).  If you want to
> shut down an interface (while keeping it in the configuration), you
> need to disable it, and the equivalent of "no shutdown" in that sense
> is "delete disable".
> 
> Talk about intuitive...
> 
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