Richey wrote:
I've got a customer with a T1.  They have been bought out by a large hotel
chain.  They are pretty much demanding that they have SNMP full read access
to our router that is at their location as well as a copy of the config for
the router.   This is not their router, it is ours and we fully manage our
router and hand them  Ethernet.     This seems a little odd that they want
access to our gear, and I am not too keen on giving them access unless they
are willing to accept some responsibility.   They don't want to accept any
responsibility for the access they would have to this box.     They say that
Verizion and AT&T don't have any problems giving them this kind of access to
their gear.

I have one situation where we lease a router to the customer and let their outsourced IT company manage it. We still have full access to it but they officially manage it. I gave it a basic, hardened config and gave their IT folks enable access to it. I pull down the config hourly with RANCID. Other than that we are hands-off with that router. We pull down the config for 2 reasons: 1) to be able to quickly deploy a spare router in the event of a hardware failure, and 2) to cover our own asses in case their outsourced IT folks screw it up. So far we haven't had any problems. The customer in this particular case wanted to maintain a VPN tunnel to their outsourced IT company. The router would also be a router on a stick for their LAN. Neither task is something that we were willing to take on. By letting the outsourced IT company take on the responsibility we can effectively wash our hands of any future problems that may arise, short of actual connectivity issues.

If the router served more than one customer then none of the customers would have any level of access to the device. If they want to graph I/O then they can do it with their own hardware on their side of the demarc, no exceptions. We're more than happy to sell a customer a router if they want to manage it themselves. We'll even set it up for them at our hourly rate. However if they want ongoing managed services then they will 1) have restricted access to the device and 2) will be purchasing an analog modem on a expansion card for us to get in remotely.

Sometimes is better to simplify your operations and not get drug into a lose/lose situation with a customer. You have to have clear lines of division between the customer and the provider.

Justin

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