We've run into the same/similar output drop bug (technically a "different" bug, 
with ID CSCtq86186, but it's really the same thing).  We're seeing it on a 
3750X with 12.2(58)SE.  TAC also recommended that we upgrade to 15.2 to fix the 
issue, but as Andriy noted, it hasn't been released yet.  When I asked them 
about this, they said that it was actually fixed in 15.0.1(SE1), which was 
released Dec 2nd.  We haven't tested that assertion out yet; we've decided to 
hold off on putting the "fresh out of the oven" IOS on our gear, but if someone 
else has, and has a good or bad experience we'd be all ears.

And just to reiterate what Andriy said, use command "sh platform port-asic 
stats drop" to get the true numbers as "sh int <blah>" can't be trusted.  
Ensure there are actually drops happening, so you don't end up chasing a ghost 
:)

-Tom

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:09:24 +0100

From: Andriy Bilous <[email protected]>

To: John Elliot <[email protected]>

Cc: cisco-nsp <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 2960S drops/packet loss

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There is a bug in most of SEs for all stackable models, which makes drop 
statistics unusable (see CSCso81660 for example - there are lots of BugIDs with 
same diagnostics and keep in mind "Fixed-in is a lie).

Reported numbers aren't realistic and often go both ways - increase and 
decrease in what appears to be a random manner. sh platform port-asic stats 
drop should report right value though. So, before you start tweaking, you may 
want to look further into it and just wait for the sane IOS release. Our SE 
reported it's fixed in 15.2, which isn't available for download yet.



On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:41 AM, John Elliot 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>

> Hi Guys,

>

> Have a pair of 2960's in a stack, one port(trunk) connects to another DC and 
> we are seeing ~5% packet-lossand large output drops to this DC.

>

>

> #sh interfaces gigabitEthernet 1/0/17 counters errors

>

> Port ? ? ? ?Align-Err ? ? FCS-Err ? ?Xmit-Err ? ? Rcv-Err ?UnderSize

> ?OutDiscards

> Gi1/0/17 ? ? ? ? ? ?0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ?

> ? ? 182867

>

> GigabitEthernet1/0/17 is up, line protocol is up (connected) ?Hardware

> is Gigabit Ethernet, address is a0cf.5b87.ec11 (bia a0cf.5b87.ec11)

> ?Description: QinQ_to_DC2 ?MTU 1998 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100

> usec, ? ? reliability 255/255, txload 41/255, rxload 23/255

> ?Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set ?Keepalive set (10 sec)

> ?Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX ?input

> flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported ?ARP type:

> ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 ?Last input 6d13h, output 00:00:00, output

> hang never ?Last clearing of "show interface" counters 04:02:15 ?Input

> queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 183592

> ?Queueing strategy: fifo ?Output queue: 0/40 (size/max) ?30 second

> input rate 9047000 bits/sec, 2075 packets/sec ?30 second output rate

> 16324000 bits/sec, 2309 packets/sec

>

>

> As you can see, 30sec rate isnt excessive, but as the drops are outdiscards 
> it would appear we are getting hit by the small buffers/microburst issue.

>

> Done a bit of reasearch, and as we have mls qos configured(Need to as we have 
> to trust dscp markings), we needto look at "tweaking" the buffer allocations 
> on the switch to hopefully mitigate these drops.

>

> There appears to be a range of recommendations when it comes to these tweaks 
> - Hoping someone has some suggestions on what to set with "mls qos queue-set 
> output" to alleviate the drops?(start conservative, then apply more 
> aggressive if needed)....and also, does adjusting the buffers require an 
> outage window?

>

> Our traffic is primarily backup(replication which is very bursty), and

> Internet

>

> Thanks in advance.

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