Thanks - Fairly certain we are seeing actual drops (And we are seeing 
packet-loss across this link)

Gi1/0/17 is mapped to asic 0/20

Gi1/0/17  17   17   17   0/20 1    17   17   local     Yes     Yes

Port-asic Port Drop Statistics - Summary
========================================

 Port 20 TxQueue Drop Stats: 308277833

And majority appear to be in Queue 1:

(The formatting will probably be screwed up by Hotmail.... apologies)

 Port 20 TxQueue Drop Statistics    Queue 0      Weight 0 Frames 3      Weight 
1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 1      Weight 0 Frames 308240408     
 Weight 1 Frames 458      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 2      Weight 0 Frames 
37898      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 3      Weight 0 
Frames 91      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 4      Weight 
0 Frames 0      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 5      Weight 
0 Frames 0      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 6      Weight 
0 Frames 0      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0    Queue 7      Weight 
0 Frames 0      Weight 1 Frames 0      Weight 2 Frames 0


So hoping someone can suggest a few tweaks to reduce these drops(And also (more 
importantly!) the packet-loss)

Note - We have other ports on this switch doing far more traffic, but not 
seeing any loss/drops on these....so I believe it is due to the bursty traffic 
specific to this trunk port


Cheers


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:08:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 2960S drops/packet loss



We’ve run into the same/similar output drop bug (technically a “different” bug, 
with ID CSCtq86186, but it’s really the same thing).  We’re seeing it on a 
3750X with 12.2(58)SE.  TAC also recommended that we upgrade to 15.2 to fix the 
issue, but as Andriy noted, it hasn’t been released yet.  When I asked them 
about this, they said that it was actually fixed in 15.0.1(SE1), which was 
released Dec 2nd.  We haven’t tested that assertion out yet; we’ve decided to 
hold off on putting the “fresh out of the oven” IOS on our gear, but if someone 
else has, and has a good or bad experience we’d be all ears. And just to 
reiterate what Andriy said, use command ”sh platform port-asic stats drop” to 
get the true numbers as “sh int <blah>” can’t be trusted.  Ensure there are 
actually drops happening, so you don’t end up chasing a ghost :)  -Tom Tom Lusty
Senior Systems Engineer Wayfair
177 Huntington Ave, Suite 6000
Boston, MA 02115
P: 617.502.7026 
[email protected]   -----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:09:24 +0100From: Andriy Bilous 
<[email protected]>To: John Elliot <[email protected]>Cc: 
cisco-nsp <[email protected]>Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 2960S drops/packet 
lossMessage-ID:                
<caonsrb9lo8yffjjwhopw09skk+gpkqjwwbk-ufzvtxaivph...@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is a bug in most of SEs for all stackable 
models, which makes drop statistics unusable (see CSCso81660 for example - 
there are lots of BugIDs with same diagnostics and keep in mind "Fixed-in is a 
lie).Reported numbers aren't realistic and often go both ways - increase and 
decrease in what appears to be a random manner. sh platform port-asic stats 
drop should report right value though. So, before you start tweaking, you may 
want to look further into it and just wait for the sane IOS release. Our SE 
reported it's fixed in 15.2, which isn't available for download yet. On Thu, 
Dec 22, 2011 at 4:41 AM, John Elliot <[email protected]> wrote:> > Hi 
Guys,> > Have a pair of 2960's in a stack, one port(trunk) connects to another 
DC and we are seeing ~5% packet-lossand large output drops to this DC.> > > #sh 
interfaces gigabitEthernet 1/0/17 counters errors> > Port ? ? ? ?Align-Err ? ? 
FCS-Err ? ?Xmit-Err ? ? Rcv-Err ?UnderSize > ?OutDiscards> Gi1/0/17 ? ? ? ? ? 
?0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ? 0 ? ? ? ? ?0 ? > ? ? 182867> > 
GigabitEthernet1/0/17 is up, line protocol is up (connected) ?Hardware > is 
Gigabit Ethernet, address is a0cf.5b87.ec11 (bia a0cf.5b87.ec11) > 
?Description: QinQ_to_DC2 ?MTU 1998 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 > usec, ? ? 
reliability 255/255, txload 41/255, rxload 23/255 > ?Encapsulation ARPA, 
loopback not set ?Keepalive set (10 sec) > ?Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, media type is 
10/100/1000BaseTX ?input > flow-control is off, output flow-control is 
unsupported ?ARP type: > ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 ?Last input 6d13h, output 
00:00:00, output > hang never ?Last clearing of "show interface" counters 
04:02:15 ?Input > queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 
183592 > ?Queueing strategy: fifo ?Output queue: 0/40 (size/max) ?30 second > 
input rate 9047000 bits/sec, 2075 packets/sec ?30 second output rate > 16324000 
bits/sec, 2309 packets/sec> > > As you can see, 30sec rate isnt excessive, but 
as the drops are outdiscards it would appear we are getting hit by the small 
buffers/microburst issue.> > Done a bit of reasearch, and as we have mls qos 
configured(Need to as we have to trust dscp markings), we needto look at 
"tweaking" the buffer allocations on the switch to hopefully mitigate these 
drops.> > There appears to be a range of recommendations when it comes to these 
tweaks - Hoping someone has some suggestions on what to set with "mls qos 
queue-set output" to alleviate the drops?(start conservative, then apply more 
aggressive if needed)....and also, does adjusting the buffers require an outage 
window?> > Our traffic is primarily backup(replication which is very bursty), 
and > Internet> > Thanks in advance.> 
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