Blake,
I'm well aware of how switching and buffering works, but I appreciate the 
derisive suggestion - it was a big help.

However, for clarity: no errors (including input/output drops) on the transport 
circuit (or the customer's directly-attached circuit).

Let me ask a more pointed question:

Besides simple management, do the Meraki switches perform any other functions 
"in the cloud", or more specifically, rely on non-local upstream connectivity?

I'm well aware that it makes absolutely zero sense that a change in our 
transport network would cause a local issue within the customer's network.  
However, the customer mentioned that they have had "odd" problems with these 
Meraki switches before when changes occurred outside our network.  Thus, I felt 
it necessary to try and ask the list if anyone has ever heard of anything 
remotely like this before.

-evt


From: Blake Dunlap [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:31 PM
To: Eric Van Tol
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information

Not enough relevant information to assist. Due to what you have and haven't 
stated in this report I suspect you don't understand the fundamentals of how 
this change affects switching and buffering, and suggest reading about it and 
learning how the technology works at that fundamental level before proceeding.
Specifically, you never mention if there are asic or input drops, or even an 
indication that you looked for them or understand what these symptoms lean 
twords or what troubleshooting steps should be taken.

-Blake

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Eric Van Tol 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,
We ran into a very strange problem last night with a customer who utilizes 
Meraki switches.  I'd like to ask anyone on the list who is familiar with this 
model of switch whether there is *any* possibility that an upstream 
modification would cause issues with traffic traversing these switches.

A little background: we attempted to perform a migration of a transport circuit 
in our network from 1G to 10G last night, but the single customer attached to 
the ME3600 where the transport circuit was changed, started to have issues.  
There are no errors being reported on either end of the circuit, light levels 
are good, and we get consistent 1500-byte df-bit pings to their firewall from 
both inside and outside our borders.  The transport circuit is not even a 
circuit that "touches" the customer's network.  However, they report slow 
browsing from within their LAN (but not from their DMZ on the same ASA).  When 
switching the transport circuit back to 1G, everything works fine.  There is 
absolutely no difference in the routing, path, or IP addresses on this 
transport circuit - the only difference is link speed.

Customer now believes the problem is with their Meraki switches, but we are 
both confused about how a change two physical hops upstream from their LAN 
would cause such issues.  The "slow browsing" issue is definitely contained 
within their network, as they are not even able to browse their own website 
which is located entirely on their infrastructure and doesn't pass through the 
10G link, or even through the CPE we provide.

I know nothing about the Meraki product, besides the fact that it's a cloud 
managed solution.  Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this before with 
this model of switch?

Thanks,
evt


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