Your best bet is to call in and make it a P2 and keep them on the phone until 
it’s resolved.

From: cisco-voip [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Charles Goldsmith
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:28 PM
To: Mike
Cc: voip puck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues


Agreed whole heartedly, it has lots of room for improvement.  Before 10.x came 
out, it was painful, it seems that it's worse now.

The GLO seemingly overworked and the waiting on BU response I always get is 
frustrating.  My current case has been open since Dec 14th, almost a month.  I 
get emails about once a week with a stupid request for info that was already in 
the original case notes from the very beginning.  When I ask for an escalation 
to the BU, I hear nothing back until the next week, and it's another inane 
request, ignoring my escalation request.

I have not called and asked for the Duty Manager yet, once I get down to less 
than 10 days left, I'll be forced to do that, but I shouldn't have to on 
something that I gave all of the relevant info for up front, including a list 
of the SO# (all purchased in the last 18 months).

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Mike <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Actually I beg to differ. It’s a system that needs to be improved upon.

From: Josh Warcop [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:01 PM
To: Mike ; 'Dana Tong'; 'Erick Wellnitz'; 'Charles Goldsmith'

Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues

It's not a nightmare. It's a consequence of losing important information.
________________________________
From: Mike <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ‎1/‎8/‎2015 6:52 PM
To: 'Dana Tong'<mailto:[email protected]>; 'Josh 
Warcop'<mailto:[email protected]>; 'Erick 
Wellnitz'<mailto:[email protected]>; 'Charles 
Goldsmith'<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues

Dana,



I’ve been down this road before. You need to do the following:



1)      Have your Cisco account team open a PSTS case

2)      Find out if the ESW contract changed and became unattached from UCSS

3)      SO# this one is huge..sorry to say it’s your golden ticket for 
entitlements you need to find it

4)      Find all the emails from your previous upgrades you would have needed 
to prove entitlements to get those so finding that will def help

5)      Cross your fingers



Welcome to the Cisco licensing nightmare ☺



From: cisco-voip [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dana 
Tong
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 6:10 PM
To: Josh Warcop; Erick Wellnitz; Charles Goldsmith
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues



Hmmm. Kind of hard. They went from 4.1(3) on MCS hardware to 6.0 -> 6.1(3)



Then purchased CUWL and went to 7.x



And migrated to 8.6(2) on UCS B series



And finally upgraded to 10.x.



Plus moved offices 4 times in the process. Will see if they have the original 
PAKs.



From: Josh Warcop [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 8:35 AM
To: Dana Tong; Erick Wellnitz; Charles Goldsmith
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues



You're not going to get far until you can prove what was paid for. They are not 
being unhelpful intentionally as their systems can only go back so far. Being 
that old those records are no longer online and have been archived.

If the client has lost everything including PAK keys you're going to have to 
get with the Cisco AM or that original partner to dig up entitlements. Hint: 
PAK keys have the Cisco SO written on them typically in the bottom left corner.

All of this should've been done prior to the upgrade using the LCU utility and 
case opened with Cisco to check entitlement.

________________________________

From: Dana Tong<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ‎1/‎8/‎2015 5:19 PM
To: Erick Wellnitz<mailto:[email protected]>; Charles 
Goldsmith<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues

Hi Erick,



They did all of the LCU Tool stuff prior to upgrade. All of the contracts were 
active at time of upgrade.



I still have the common issue of only obtaining licenses that the new PLM 
reports and not what the customer has paid for.





The original purchase (SO#) was some 8 years ago with another partner.



Cheers

Dana





From: Erick Wellnitz [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 8:04 AM
To: Charles Goldsmith
Cc: Dana Tong; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues



That's what we did to make sure everything was good with their contracts 
contained the right licenses.  Then go through the pre-upgrade process to 
verify then the post upgrade goes pretty fast.



5 calendar days, three of which were weekend and holiday, for my last upgrade.



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Get the customer's Cisco AM involved is my advice.



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Dana Tong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Guys,



A customer of mine did an upgrade last August and still has not been able to 
obtain the licenses that they are entitled to.



The customer first bought CUWL licenses some 8 years ago and have had an active 
and valid UCSS and ESW contract for this entire time.



Global Licensing provided the customer with a mix of UCL Enhanced and Enhanced 
Plus licenses at the time of upgrade to get the system operational. (They 
didn't have their Owner ID's set and it was an 8-10 upgrade.) They've been 
battling with GLO ever since to get their CUWL licenses.



In the 5mths since the upgrade the customers UCSS went overdue but they have 
since renewed with SWSS. GLO still won't provide the licenses.



Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get some traction here.





Regards,



Dana Tong



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